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My kids are from "above average" to "top of the class". Neither one, in 22 total years of K-12 were asked to do such a thing. Neither one was paired in STEM where they HAD to do "all the work" because the other student(s) weren't capable of the work.
Now, should the schools differentiate (or more differentiation)? Have a GT/AP/IB curriculum with an aptitude requirement? Absolutely.
But to claim "Little Johnny finishes in 10 minutes and so the teacher makes him help little Juan the rest of the time" is simply not substantiated.
Negative. I've experience this myself. I was able to power through most in-class math assignments very quickly...........generally I was then given a nod from the teacher, who was absolutely awesome BTW - lucky to have had him every year in HS, to go, "help" other kids. Over those four years this occurred at least 100 times.
My son experienced roughly the same and to a leaser degree my daughter as well.
I think it's about time that the mods create a sub forum under Politics and Other Controversies. We have Media/Elections/Illegal Immigrants. Time to add Racism. Why? I think there are many that are putting the racism subject on the back burner due to over saturation. It's a sad commentary when I say this because it IS such an important topic but it's so omni present, there are times when I want to get away from it.
Exactly. The OECD PIAAC should be a HUGE wake up call. The US public education system is failing to develop US academic talent. That's clearly obvious by our top scorers (90th-percentile+) being 2nd from the bottom among first world countries, above only Spain.
My wife and I are fortunate, we were able to pull our son out of public elementary his 2nd grade year, our daughter never attended public K-12. Both emerged well ahead of their public school friends and quite frankly dominated in college (one B between them in college) and professional school.
I've said it before and been laughed at, US K-12 aggregated outcomes pose nothing short of a national security problem. DISD (Dallas TX) claims that 990 SAT is the threshold of college readiness. Through Johns Hopkins CTY our kids each scored significantly better than that as 5th and 6th graders respectively. I know that's just a data point but those defending the status quo should know their little word victories are pyrrhic in nature. The ship is going down by the head as it were.
My wife and I are fortunate, we were able to pull our son out of public elementary his 2nd grade year, our daughter never attended public K-12. Both emerged well ahead of their public school friends and quite frankly dominated in college (one B between them in college) and professional school.
I've said it before and been laughed at, US K-12 aggregated outcomes pose nothing short of a national security problem. DISD (Dallas TX) claims that 990 SAT is the threshold of college readiness. Through Johns Hopkins CTY our kids each scored significantly better than that as 5th and 6th graders respectively. I know that's just a data point but those defending the status quo should know their little word victories are pyrrhic in nature. The ship is going down by the head as it were.
That's just sad. Most people could take the SAT cold after a case of whiskey and still score higher than that.
Before I read the bolded, I suspected public schools were a waste of money. Having read that, I know they're a waste of money.
My wife and I are fortunate, we were able to pull our son out of public elementary his 2nd grade year, our daughter never attended public K-12. Both emerged well ahead of their public school friends and quite frankly dominated in college (one B between them in college) and professional school.
I've said it before and been laughed at, US K-12 aggregated outcomes pose nothing short of a national security problem. DISD (Dallas TX) claims that 990 SAT is the threshold of college readiness. Through Johns Hopkins CTY our kids each scored significantly better than that as 5th and 6th graders respectively. I know that's just a data point but those defending the status quo should know their little word victories are pyrrhic in nature. The ship is going down by the head as it were.
My wife and I are fortunate, we were able to pull our son out of public elementary his 2nd grade year, our daughter never attended public K-12. Both emerged well ahead of their public school friends and quite frankly dominated in college (one B between them in college) and professional school.
I've said it before and been laughed at, US K-12 aggregated outcomes pose nothing short of a national security problem. DISD (Dallas TX) claims that 990 SAT is the threshold of college readiness. Through Johns Hopkins CTY our kids each scored significantly better than that as 5th and 6th graders respectively. I know that's just a data point but those defending the status quo should know their little word victories are pyrrhic in nature. The ship is going down by the head as it were.
990 is indeed good for college. Not great, and not getting scholarships for academics, but good. I think you are conflating the two. You can easily get into a state school with it.
990 is indeed good for college. Not great, and not getting scholarships for academics, but good. I think you are conflating the two. You can easily get into a state school with it.
In this context I'm not confusing anything and I know 990 is good enough for admission into some school's lower end programs. Try leveraging a 990 into engineering, chemistry, math or any decent humanities program.
There is a direct line between very low scores and useless fluffy degrees.
IOW 990 being good enough underscores the problem.
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I'd also like to know success and failure metrics per test takers who score so poorly but end up in college............can't be good.
990 is indeed good for college. Not great, and not getting scholarships for academics, but good. I think you are conflating the two. You can easily get into a state school with it.
That depends on the state school. Want to go to Purdue (state school in Indiana) for engineering? The average score for admissions is 1,430 (32 on the ACT). Want to go to Wisconsin? 1,370 (30 on the ACT). How about Illinois? 1,350 (29-30 on the ACT).
For comparison purposes, national average scores:
SAT: 1,051 -- Maximum score is 1600
ACT: 20.3 -- Maximum score is 36
990 on the SAT is below the national average and won't get you into a good school.
990 is indeed good for college. Not great, and not getting scholarships for academics, but good. I think you are conflating the two. You can easily get into a state school with it.
If the baseline expectation that DISD is setting is a 990, considering many taxpayers pay 5 figures in school taxes alone, yeah I would call that absolutely pathetic.
No wonder Park Cities divorced from the City of Dallas.
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