Kyiv or Kiev? Why two names for the same city? (speech, New York)

[Brave New World]

Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound

I have noticed that the capital city in the Ukraine has been referred to Kyiv and pronounced Keeve lately on the news. Apparently its the way Ukraine calls it. And Kiev was how Russia called the city.

So which do you prefer? And what will it be called once Russia takes control?

Why Kyiv instead of Kiev?

I like Chicken Kiev, however I will call the city Kyiv in order to support the Ukrainians.

[Frank DeForrest]

Too funny. Literally overnight, masses of regime media watchers not only changed how they had been spelling and pronouncing Kiev for decades, but are now lecturing others on the new “correctness” of it

[Boothwynman]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Too funny. Literally overnight, masses of regime media watchers not only changed how they had spelling and pronouncing Kiev for decades, but are now lecturing others on the new “correctness” of it

What about "Odessa" (Russian)/"Odesa" (Ukrainian)? The city in TX and the town in DE use the Russian spelling. I passed through Odessa, Delaware many times on my way to the beach when growing up near Philadelphia (when will *that* spelling be changed?).

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by reneeh63

The Trump base is learning Russian so they can be even cozier with Putin.

We may all have to learn it if the world does not stand up to Putin.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by Annandale_Man

Kiev is the Russian pronunciation. The media is pulling a "freedom fries" stunt by calling it Kyiv.

sounds about right

[JR_C]

Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest

Too funny. Literally overnight, masses of regime media watchers not only changed how they had been spelling and pronouncing Kiev for decades, but are now lecturing others on the new “correctness” of it

Just because we've been wrong all these years is no reason to continue being wrong.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by JR_C

Just because we've been wrong all these years is no reason to continue being wrong.

Right, but this is not new. It's just new to Americans that never paid attention to Ukraine until Russia invaded it unprovoked.

[Leona Valley]

Is it Biden or ByeDone?

[Mathguy]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

Why'd they change it?

I can't say, perhaps they liked it better that way?

[cdnirene]

Bumping this thread just to add a link to this article:

How to pronounce and spell ‘Kyiv’, and why it matters

the Ukrainian government mounted a campaign four years ago to secure international approval for the name of its capital city. There is even a popular Twitter hashtag, #KyivNotKiev

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