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Old 06-05-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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Buffalo video: Officers suspended after 75-year-old man pushed down, cracking head; Cuomo supports firing, charges: https://abc7news.com/buffalo-police-...otest/6232706/
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:11 PM
 
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I don’t agree with charges for the pusher, in the heat of the moment under the influence of adrenaline he made an error. The cop who filed a report saying the old guy tripped, that cop should be fired.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:11 PM
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I've watched the video a couple times.

What was Gugino trying to do, does anyone know, when he appears to be trying to touch the cop's gun? I would think after being told to back up, and he comes forward in what seems to be a clear attempt to make contact with his weapon, he'd expect to be shoved.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:13 PM
 
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For me, it's less about the shoving and more about the officer starting to kneel to check on him being pulled up from doing so and then the false report.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:14 PM
 
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I've watched the video a couple times.

What was Gugino trying to do, does anyone know, when he appears to be trying to touch the cop's gun? I would think after being told to back up, and he comes forward in what seems to be a clear attempt to make contact with his weapon, he'd expect to be shoved.
Someone said he was trying to return a helmet. It looks like the cop tried to help the guy then he was pushed away by another cop.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:16 PM
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Buffalo video: Officers suspended after 75-year-old man pushed down, cracking head; Cuomo supports firing, charges: https://abc7news.com/buffalo-police-...otest/6232706/
There is already a thread on this so you might want to have this merged. As an aside the Mayor of Buffalo has now come out and changed his stance a bit on the situation he condemned today as other facts have come to light. See everyone jumps to conclusions and ASSUMES and then you have to back track.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:17 PM
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Someone said he was trying to return a helmet. It looks like the cop tried to help the guy then he was pushed away by another cop.
There is a female police voice telling a bystander, who had yelled you better call an ambulance, that "the EMT is right here".

Reading through articles about Martin Gugino, he is a very very frequent protestor for a variety of causes, one of which is Plowshares. I just would think he would know not to approach a group of cops in riot gear and reach out (albeit slowly) for his weapon.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:17 PM
 
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Walk up to a cop and start shoving something in his belly close to his/her firearm and what do you expect? I wonder if this was staged. Just happens to be a camera right there when this guy walks up? What did he think was going to happen?
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:18 PM
 
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I've watched the video a couple times.

What was Gugino trying to do, does anyone know, when he appears to be trying to touch the cop's gun? I would think after being told to back up, and he comes forward in what seems to be a clear attempt to make contact with his weapon, he'd expect to be shoved.
Look closely at the old guys hands, they are both full. He wasn’t reaching for anything.
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Old 06-05-2020, 05:20 PM
 
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There is a female police voice telling a bystander, who had yelled you better call an ambulance, that "the EMT is right here".

Reading through articles about Martin Gugino, he is a very very frequent protestor for a variety of causes, one of which is Plowshares. I just would think he would know not to approach a group of cops in riot gear and reach out (albeit slowly) for his weapon.
He has a helmet in his left hand and a cell phone in his right.
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