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Old 03-26-2022, 11:39 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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It’s time to turn China back into starving peasants.
It's us that can't survive without China. Take away everything Ch8na makes and their rare earths etc. if America. Had to rely on what we make here we would have... let me think. My Pillow, coffee mugs with AR15 and flags on them, simple wooden toys and flags made by veterans. We don't make much else.
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Old 03-26-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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It's us that can't survive without China. Take away everything Ch8na makes and their rare earths etc. if America. Had to rely on what we make here we would have... let me think. My Pillow, coffee mugs with AR15 and flags on them, simple wooden toys and flags made by veterans. We don't make much else.
Nonsense. Whatever China makes can be made somewhere else. The Wuhan Virus forced many companies to move out of China. I am seeing products that used to be made in China being made in Vietnam, India, Bangladesh, Mexico, Indonesia, and even the USA.

Japan offered Japanese companies money to move out of China. Now that's putting Japanese first. When will the USA put "Americans first" like that?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF9kfOxBecc
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Old 03-26-2022, 12:05 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Nonsense. Whatever China makes can be made somewhere else. The Wuhan Virus forced many companies to move out of China. I am seeing products that used to be made in China being made in Vietnam, India, Bangladesh, Mexico, Indonesia, and even the USA.

Japan offered Japanese companies money to move out of China. Now that's putting Japanese first. When will the USA put "Americans first" like that?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF9kfOxBecc
They won't because they can't. If you think Mexico or Viet Nam can take over the production facilities of the Chinese you are delusional. If it was the simple we would do it already If the green radicals have their way and we do a job on our own energy like Germany did we will be even more helpless and beholden to the Chinese.

Go to Mexico and try to open a magnet factory. Guess what they don't have the stuff. Rare earths are called that for a reason. Japan isn't and never can be a self reliant country. So that's a terrible example.
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Old 03-26-2022, 07:35 PM
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Can someone explain why Taiwan is important to us or any of our business? Are they part of an alliance with us?
Taiwan makes over 60% of the world's semiconductor chips. All the chips in the electronics, vehicles, etc. come from there. You bet it has business implications for the entire world. If China takes over, they take control of the industry.
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Old 03-26-2022, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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China and taiwan is an internal civil war issue among the Chinese. Taiwan, unlike Ukraine, is NOT an independently recognized country by the UN or most any country, including the US and all western states. Almost everyone in the world recognize taiwan as "part of China". So when China and taiwan fight, it is a continuation of a civil war that's more than 70+ years old. So stay out of it.
Almost everyone in the world WRONGLY recognize taiwan as "part of China".


there has been a difference between Taiwan and mainland red china for a very long time.... only idiot socialists try to merge them
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Old 03-26-2022, 08:17 PM
 
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Who here thinks we’ve moved “past nukes” and have some sort of advanced Technology that would prevent nukes from even being launched or perhaps destroyed right in their silos. Follow this if you will. There’s been several reported cases of nuclear launch capabilities being rendered useless or shut down by an unknown force. It usually involves sightings of these weird flying objects that they claim they don’t know what they are. I think it’s technology we have. I think there’s a disinformation campaign to make it look as though these things are spying on our military to make the world think it’s not us.

Under both the Clinton and the Bush administration we flat out sold long range tactical guidance technology to the Chinese. Now at face value that is just pure insanity. But let’s look a little further. Why not let the Chinese and other nations spend all their resources developing a nuclear arsenal that we already have the technology to render useless. Fast forward to today. We’re basically letting North Korea develop nukes. And other countries. It’s like we don’t even care. These countries will use nuclear weapons. They’re not gonna bite by any nuclear treaty of any kind. The minute they get their hands on a few long range tactical missiles, they’re gonna start pushing the button.

We don’t seem to care, at all. Really makes you wonder.
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Old 03-26-2022, 08:46 PM
 
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Is not China on the verge of a 2008esq real estate bubble?
China's real estate bubble is estimated by financial experts to be 6 times worse than 2008 and that IS taking into account the population difference between the USA and China.
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:08 PM
 
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It’s time to turn China back into starving peasants.

That would be so nice. We just need to turn Latin America into the new manufacturing hub and replace China. Lots of proposals in the works.
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:10 PM
 
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Agree.

Back to the Stone Age for them.

Start with taking out those 3 gorges dams on the Yangtze River,
that'll cause major flooding downstream
Why? What has China done to us?
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Old 03-26-2022, 09:12 PM
 
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Who here thinks we’ve moved “past nukes” and have some sort of advanced Technology that would prevent nukes from even being launched or perhaps destroyed right in their silos. Follow this if you will. There’s been several reported cases of nuclear launch capabilities being rendered useless or shut down by an unknown force. It usually involves sightings of these weird flying objects that they claim they don’t know what they are. I think it’s technology we have. I think there’s a disinformation campaign to make it look as though these things are spying on our military to make the world think it’s not us.
Dream on. Are you willing to bet the human race on that theory?
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