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Changing the subject because the response was not of your liking is very obvious -
I changed because I neglected to allow for your waffling ability, while you may depart from an airport with no public funding you never did account for where you land, did you?
So I changed to question what seems to be your belief you don't have the benefit of federal funding, paid for partly by those who never fly with this question:
IF there was no government regulation anybody could slap together some aluminum and call it an airplane, might be safe, might not be, same goes for its maintenance. Safety standards and inspection are partly financed by people who never go near an airplane. Do you like having a reasonably good chance at arriving at your destination?
A question I believe you have yet to answer. I guess you change the subject because the question was not of your liking
Gee, I'm probably older than you, I can't remember the last two weeks. But right now I'm just confirming my siuspicions that while you are indeed very accomplished at whining you apparently have nothing substantive or constructive to offer.
Maybe someday you'll learn that reading books is meaningless if you make no attempt at understanding what you've read or if you read from only one side of the aisle.
You tipped your hand when you said "it's over" I can't think of anything more UN-American or anything that shows such little appreciation for what America really is than just giving up.
No, no, "it's over" isn't like that! I'm doing my part. I shut down my business where I was employing five guys so that I could live a simpler lifestyle limiting my income to where I either paid no tax or barely paid tax.
See? I'm doing my part... but truth be told, it's kind of a selfish thing now. I've found that working 60/70 hrs/wk paying 50%+ in taxes really wasn't very rewarding. Now, I work about 20 hours a week and pay nearly nothing in taxes. As far as I'm concerned, when taxes are taken into account, I'm making a forty hour check. Sweet, eh?
Anyway "it's over" is referring to the welfare net. It'll not survive very well for more than ten years without a considerable tax increase. You should really read something about it. My "whining" is going to be heard coming from many more people in the near future.
And I have read both sides of "the aisle". I've also read "The Communist Manifesto" and "Capitol". Come on buddy, get with it.
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No, no, "it's over" isn't like that! I'm doing my part. I shut down my business where I was employing five guys so that I could live a simpler lifestyle limiting my income to where I either paid no tax or barely paid tax.
See? I'm doing my part... but truth be told, it's kind of a selfish thing now. I've found that working 60/70 hrs/wk paying 50%+ in taxes really wasn't very rewarding. Now, I work about 20 hours a week and pay nearly nothing in taxes. As far as I'm concerned, when taxes are taken into account, I'm making a forty hour check. Sweet, eh?
Anyway "it's over" is referring to the welfare net. It'll not survive very well for more than ten years without a considerably tax increase. You should really read something about it. My "whining" is going to be heard coming from many more people in the near future.
And I have read both sides of "the aisle". I've also read "The Communist Manifesto" and "Capitol". Come on buddy, get with it.
You 're not doing your part if you're paying no taxes as long as you're using roads partly funded by the government, listening to broadcast radio/tv, using the air traffic system, etc., etc., etc., you're just being a drain on the system like those you whine about.
Right, buddy?
I guess it's only upsetting to you when other people get something?
You 're not doing your part if you're paying no taxes as long as you're using roads partly funded by the government,
Assuming the OP is purchasing fuel, he is paying a gas tax - which at least here is a combination of State and Federal gas - and it goes to roads and highways
You 're not doing your part if you're paying no taxes as long as you're using roads partly funded by the government, listening to broadcast radio/tv, using the air traffic system, etc., etc., etc., you're just being a drain on the system like those you whine about.
Right, buddy?
I guess it's only upsetting to you when other people get something?
That's correct... except for fuel taxes... but I don't really drive much. And, truth be told, I have enough credits in to draw SS-- which I'll do if it's still there.
Listen, it's bigger than just not paying taxes. I stopped employing people. And, prices in my industry went up because of the removal of competition and the return of those customers to the local big companies.
I make almost everything I use myself. I even make my wine at home and I go out of my way to help anyone else who wants to do the same thing.
And, of course, I no longer help older people. I was joking about that post, but I didn't think it was appropriate, so I deleted it. However, the truth is, I used to hold doors for old ladies and that sort of thing. I don't any more. I volunteered at a retirement home, hanging out reading to some folks, playing checkers, just shooting the breeze. I stopped that too.
The consequences are so far reaching, it's crazy... And I'm just the beginning... because, like I mentioned in another thread, I saw the crash of the internet, housing and oil markets. This is just another market: The socialism market... and this is crashing.
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That's correct... except for fuel taxes... but I don't really drive much. And, truth be told, I have enough credits in to draw SS-- which I'll do if it's still there.
Listen, it's bigger than just not paying taxes. I stopped employing people. And, prices in my industry went up because of the removal of competition and the return of those customers to the local big companies.
I make almost everything I use myself. I even make my wine at home and I go out of my way to help anyone else who wants to do the same thing.
And, of course, I no longer help older people. I was joking about that post, but I didn't think it was appropriate, so I deleted it. However, the truth is, I used to hold doors for old ladies and that sort of thing. I don't any more. I volunteered at a retirement home, hanging out reading to some folks, playing checkers, just shooting the breeze. I stopped that too.
The consequences are so far reaching, it's crazy... And I'm just the beginning... because, like I mentioned in another thread, I saw the crash of the internet, housing and oil markets. This is just another market: The socialism market... and this is crashing.
Enjoy.
I disagree, i think we've damaged ourselves far more over the yrears by acting with the misguided notion we should attempt to make the world in our image than we have by trying to help Americans.
There is no place I can find in the Constitution that makes anything other than the good ol' USA the government's responsibility.
While I think there've been horrible mistakes and misjudgements made that doesn't make givernment bad, it makes BAD government bad. Shoddy manufacturing produces a shoddy product, it doesn't mean the idea was shoddy or wrong. Fix the production line, not the designer if he had a good idea.
That's correct... except for fuel taxes... but I don't really drive much. And, truth be told, I have enough credits in to draw SS-- which I'll do if it's still there.
You know - if one is "self employed", and you do it right, you can really not have any "income" of a personal nature. Do everything under a business / corp (many different types) - have the business with all the income - all expenses come off the gross - you get a buck a week "salary" -
I disagree, i think we've damaged ourselves far more over the yrears by acting with the misguided notion we should attempt to make the world in our image than we have by trying to help Americans.
There is no place I can find in the Constitution that makes anything other than the good ol' USA the government's responsibility.
While I think there've been horrible mistakes and misjudgements made that doesn't make givernment bad, it makes BAD government bad. Shoddy manufacturing produces a shoddy product, it doesn't mean the idea was shoddy or wrong. Fix the production line, not the designer if he had a good idea.
Hmm... Well, how you gonna fix 54 yr. olds not being able to get jobs when young people aren't willing to consume a product because the tax burden to buy it is too high? How are you going to make jobs appear when the people who are capable of running a business choose not to because the reward for doing so is too low because of the immense tax burden? How are you going to fix stagflation that renders the welfare net useless?
Your manufacturing analogy isn't suited to the problem. We have the right line, the problem is trying to produce socialism on it. Socialism falls apart on every line... Even the Europeans are moving away from it.
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Originally Posted by Greatday
You know - if one is "self employed", and you do it right, you can really not have any "income" of a personal nature. Do everything under a business / corp (many different types) - have the business with all the income - all expenses come off the gross - you get a buck a week "salary" -
Now yer thinkin'!!!!!
LOL. Yeah, I just had my rear-end handed to me in the business section on that subject.
For me to work any more than I do now, I'd have to hire a helper. I don't want any part of paying for him or helping improve competition. Besides, I like spending my free time making clothes and stuff.
I think things would have turned out differently if I had had a decent accountant at the beginning.
Last edited by One Thousand; 05-22-2008 at 05:17 PM..
A close friend, a Woman, had been with a company as an Executive, for over 25 years. She was laid off. She was 60.
A woman. 60 years of age. She had her MBA. But, tough market out there.
She went back to school - full time - dedicated to getting first her Masters in Psychology / Counseling, then a Doctorate in same.
The demand for Licensed Counselors, who are OLDER is evidently unbelievable.
She now has her own, very lucrative, private practice. Is helping people (which she was always doing before - for free) and is making a very nice mid range 6 figure income.
OBTW - she is now 70 and having a ball
Where there is a will, there is certainly a way. You have to look for it though - and, be open minded.
This is my plan exactly. I have an MBA and have been in the corporate world. I am 48 and have to be realistic, so now I am applying for jobs at the bottom in the social services arena to get some experience and then go back to school for an MSW. This is one field in which age is actually valued and not held against one.
I know I have to figure out something else to do for 20 years and this seems like a good plan to me.
You know - if one is "self employed", and you do it right, you can really not have any "income" of a personal nature. Do everything under a business / corp (many different types) - have the business with all the income - all expenses come off the gross - you get a buck a week "salary" -
Now yer thinkin'!!!!!
Wrong! Closely held "C Corp", "S Corp" and "LLC" are considered to be all the same when it comes to personal liability of the owners or owners. The assets and liabilities of the owner(s) are considered to be the same as the business entinity. There is no "Corporate veil/shield of liability" for closely held business entities. Check out the IRS regs re these type of business models. The IRS will not permit a business entity to exist as a "hobby" and not generate profit and revenue for the owner(s)!
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... but truth be told, it's kind of a selfish thing now. I've found that working 60/70 hrs/wk paying 50%+ in taxes really wasn't very rewarding. Now, I work about 20 hours a week and pay nearly nothing in taxes. As far as I'm concerned, when taxes are taken into account, I'm making a forty hour check. Sweet, eh?
