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Old 03-17-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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Why?

• Maintaining a buffer zone between Russia and Western forces because having Estonia and Latvia in NATO apparently isn't enough
• Purging the Ukrainian government of saints like Dmytro Yarosh who like to imagine a Ukraine that's 'de Russified'
• Defending the Russian ethnic minority of Ukraine
• Seizing American financed biomedical laboratories
• Zelensky considering the nuclear rearmament of Ukraine

Make of those reasons as you will but I believe that's the gist of much of what's driving the Russian narrative. They're certainly interested in controlling Ukraine. You know, a pro Russian puppet government and the like.

 
Old 03-17-2022, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Russia has been in Ukraine for weeks now and spending all this time and energy bombing non military and government sites. Why? Why are they wasting time bombing many hospitals and apartment buildings and allowing the Ukraine military to organize and build up?

Why is Russia wasting all this time, energy and resources? Why does Russia not spend that time and resources and go after the military and government. And put some one in charge like Belarus?

Why are they wasting all this time and resources?

This got me thinking is this war really about the great reset and Putin and Biden are working together. It seems Russia does not really care about wining this war but it is sure having major effects on the world economy when prices are going up very high. And the Russian economy is in major ruins.

I just don’t understand what Putin is doing it makes no sense from a military point view to be wasting all this time and resources to allow Ukraine military to organize and build up. They don’t seem interested going after military and government sites but go after civilians.

And hostage in one of the hospital? For what ransom money you got to be kidding me. It is war not ransom is a priority.

I just don’t understand what Putin is doing unless he is working with Biden on the great reset and the war is about that and not Ukraine government.

Well inflation keeps going up every month and food shortages now because of the war.

I just don’t understand from a military point of view what Putin is doing is not helping him at all win this war.

Or is this part of the plan of the great rest to really start WW3?
Bill Maher covered ^ well: WW3 and Me:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXdzAZvid0E
 
Old 03-17-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Originally Posted by Bubble99 View Post
Russia has been in Ukraine for weeks now and spending all this time and energy bombing non military and government sites. Why? Why are they wasting time bombing many hospitals and apartment buildings and allowing the Ukraine military to organize and build up?

Why is Russia wasting all this time, energy and resources? Why does Russia not spend that time and resources and go after the military and government. And put some one in charge like Belarus?

Why are they wasting all this time and resources?

This got me thinking is this war really about the great reset and Putin and Biden are working together. It seems Russia does not really care about wining this war but it is sure having major effects on the world economy when prices are going up very high. And the Russian economy is in major ruins.

I just don’t understand what Putin is doing it makes no sense from a military point view to be wasting all this time and resources to allow Ukraine military to organize and build up. They don’t seem interested going after military and government sites but go after civilians.

And hostage in one of the hospital? For what ransom money you got to be kidding me. It is war not ransom is a priority.

I just don’t understand what Putin is doing unless he is working with Biden on the great reset and the war is about that and not Ukraine government.

Well inflation keeps going up every month and food shortages now because of the war.

I just don’t understand from a military point of view what Putin is doing is not helping him at all win this war.

Or is this part of the plan of the great rest to really start WW3?
You remember the Cuban missle crisis? Harris seeking to add Ukraine into Nato is just like that in reverse.

Putin also took the farmlands of Crimea that has 2 and a half million people and Putin sunk a lot of money in to Crimea in 2014, but in 2017, Ukraine built a dam and almost turned all the water to Crimea off.

So every day for 2 and a half million people, the water is only on for a few hours a day, and forget about all those farmlands ruining.


This war is more about water then anything else, dollars to donuts if Putin thinks he's gonna loose, he's gonna bomb the hell out of that dam if at all possible to blow up a dam.


What would America do if Russia went to Mexico to put up rockets and defense systems with a whole fleet of fighter jets?

Ukraine joining Nato would be the same thing on Russia's border. Harris going to Europe egging on Ukraine to join Nato appears to be America purposely starting a war.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 10:34 AM
 
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Maybe, just maybe, Ukraine was afraid of being invaded by Russia and that's why they wanted to join NATO.

You know, because that's what happened. Russia has a terrible track record of peaceful relations with its neighbors. That's why so many have or want to join NATO.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 10:38 AM
 
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Putin also took the farmlands of Crimea that has 2 and a half million people and Putin sunk a lot of money in to Crimea in 2014, but in 2017, Ukraine built a dam and almost turned all the water to Crimea off.
So if Baby Pooty Pootin' Poot Poot would have left Crimea alone, the people would have not had the water turned off on them? Sounds like Pooty Poot is the problem.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 10:40 AM
 
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Maybe, just maybe, Ukraine was afraid of being invaded by Russia and that's why they wanted to join NATO.

You know, because that's what happened. Russia has a terrible track record of peaceful relations with its neighbors. That's why so many have or want to join NATO.
It's like all the sudden centuries of Imperial and Communist Russian history of aggression doesn't exist.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 11:10 AM
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Russia tried to seize the capital and install a puppet, but it failed. The new strategy is to force Ukraine to give up.

Putin's idea behind killing civilians is to terrorize the population so that Ukrainians are more willing to concede to Russia's demands.
Yes. And Putin's ego isn't ready to admit he screwed up. He thought it would be as easy as Crimea.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 11:14 AM
bu2
 
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How many countries will fund and supply Ukraine with military equipment for years upon years ?
Russia in Afghanistan
America in Vietnam

Odds are it will be pretty easy.
 
Old 03-17-2022, 11:26 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Do you folks here just want an echo chamber where everyone agrees with each other ?
 
Old 03-17-2022, 01:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Russia has been in Ukraine for weeks now and spending all this time and energy bombing non military and government sites. Why? Why are they wasting time bombing many hospitals and apartment buildings and allowing the Ukraine military to organize and build up?

Why is Russia wasting all this time, energy and resources? Why does Russia not spend that time and resources and go after the military and government. And put some one in charge like Belarus?

Why are they wasting all this time and resources?
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Are you assuming that since the media is only talking about civilian targets being bombed, that means only civilian targets are being bombed?
Looks like people in this thread are far more interested in assuming that Putin is bombing only, or even principally, civilian targets (hospitals, apartment buildings, theaters etc.) and drawing all the thrilling, horrifying conclusions that assumption would lead to....

...without even looking at the question I quoted above. The obvious and sensible answer to it, would lead to far more mundane conclusions that would make far more sense.

In fact, most of Putin's attacks are going against military targets, where he can find them: Air bases, dams, trucks, troop concentrations, etc. A barrage occasionally goes astray, or gets aimed at something they though was a military target. A few shots (or even a few dozen) are fired at civilians where they shouldn't be, as soldiers become overwrought or exhausted - something that happens in every war, to every side. But those are relatively few and far between, though they do happen and produce horrific results.

Can you knock off the hysteria and try looking at the far more likely things going on? Or is it just too much fun calling Putin names (however deserved) and making hysterical projections on his intentions, based on your obviously silly assumptions?
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