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Old 03-17-2022, 10:51 PM
 
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Largest Federal Utility Chooses Gas, Undermining Biden’s Climate Goals

The nation’s largest federally owned utility plans to invest more than $3.5 billion in new gas-burning electric plants, despite President Biden’s commitment to swiftly move away from fossil fuels and eliminate greenhouse gases from the power sector in a little more than a decade.

The Tennessee Valley Authority, which provides electricity to nearly 10 million people across the Southeast, is replacing aging power plants that run on coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel. But critics say substituting gas for coal would lock in decades of additional carbon dioxide emissions that are heating the planet and could be avoided by generating more electricity from solar, wind or another renewable source.

It marks the second time in recent months that a federal entity has clashed with Mr. Biden’s climate agenda. The United States Postal Service is replacing 165,000 aging mail trucks with mostly gasoline-powered vehicles, despite the desire of the White House and leading Democrats to convert the fleet to all-electric vehicles.

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In its deliberations about replacing coal-fired generators, the T.V.A. found that solar or other zero-emissions sources would be less dependable and more expensive than gas, said Catherine Butler, a spokeswoman for the T.V.A.

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changes over time have transformed the T.V.A. into the rare utility that now draws almost half its power from zero-emissions sources. Its legacy hydroelectric dams provide 11 percent of the agency’s power while nuclear energy supplies another 39 percent and wind and solar make up 3 percent. It has shuttered coal plants to the point that it now draws 19 percent of its power from coal.


They serve their customers by providing reliable power. Wind and solar is unreliable - that's why they provide only 3% of their power.
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Old 03-18-2022, 01:40 AM
 
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Anybody who has sense knows that it impractical to use zero emissions at a 100% rate across the board.

The U.S. has enough proven natural gas reserves to last 100yrs at current consumption rates, so I doubt gas plants are going anywhere soon. Coal as a power source on the other hand is going the way of the dodo bird as it should.

At this point those on either spectrum for the extreme push for zero emissions or extreme resistance to it are two peas in a pod to me.
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Old 03-18-2022, 06:47 AM
 
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The transition to wind/solar is going to be a gradual one. We need to use conventional power sources like gas if we are not going to embrace nuclear to have ample power available 24/7.
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Old 03-18-2022, 06:56 AM
 
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The transition to wind/solar is going to be a gradual one. We need to use conventional power sources like gas if we are not going to embrace nuclear to have ample power available 24/7.
It doesn't have to be necessarily, but the way to do it would be to HIGHLY subsidize solar so that basically every homeowner and business could get enough to fully power their homes.

The problem is that it would be pretty expensive, and you'd be killing a lot of businesses that sell electricity.....and those businesses donate to politicians.

In the end, it would make the country significantly more energy independent, and it would lower the stress on power grids by effectively creating millions of small scale power producers.

But there would be no incentive to do it because it would kill political donations from the companies that would be put out of business due to the lower demand.
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Old 03-18-2022, 06:58 AM
 
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solar and wind are yesterday’s energy sources. small core reactors are the future. we are just spinning our pinwheels with anything else
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Good. We need energy now not the hopes and dreams that are today still Science Fiction.



Use what we have at hand like coal, natural gas, oil but keep on developing the renewable sources for the future.



Why is this such a difficult concept for the Left? Are they a bunch of spoiled brats like Veruca Salt of Willie Wonka screaming in a tantrum "I WANT IT NOW" ?



Democrats, Relax and stop scaring people. We have enough problems to worry about like Nuclear war with Russia.
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Old 03-18-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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solar and wind are yesterday’s energy sources. small core reactors are the future. we are just spinning our pinwheels with anything else
Solar energy equipment is primarily a Chinese product... another reason to avoid.

Whatever energy source we use should overwhelmingly be produced in the U.S.
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:33 AM
 
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Solar energy equipment is primarily a Chinese product... another reason to avoid.

Whatever energy source we use should overwhelmingly be produced in the U.S.
Yep, the vast majority of solar panels are made in dirty coal fired plants in China, then shipped half way around the world in old leaky Fuel oil powered ships. Exactly, how is this good for the environment and American jobs
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Old 03-18-2022, 09:55 AM
 
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Yep, the vast majority of solar panels are made in dirty coal fired plants in China, then shipped half way around the world in old leaky Fuel oil powered ships. Exactly, how is this good for the environment and American jobs
you mean it doesn’t arrive by sailboat?
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Old 03-18-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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you mean it doesn’t arrive by sailboat?
This is how AOC imagines how they show up. In reality they arrive on Fuel oil sucking leaky ships and are produced in Muslim Slave camps, powered with the dirtiest coal in the world
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