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I understand we need to protect kids but there’s something very sketchy about the legal system treating pretend minors who are constructed by an industry of vigilantes pretending to be kids with goals of getting adults to meet at certain locations simply to expose them as predators, as a practice that is acceptable without police and where anyone can do this to a friend.
I feel like this maybe has gone too far. Shouldn’t it be questionable if a potential predator can demonstrate that the actions that brought them to the meeting were not consistent with the actions of a real minor? Or somehow the defense that there was some manipulation tactics deployed and pieces of conversation twisted to the benefit of the group making it as likely as possible to get their guy to meet? Or that there was a misunderstanding as far as what the reason was behind the showing up?
Under these terms what happens when someone with multiple personalities claims that he pretended to be a minor on his other self and his other self write obscene things to who he thought was a minor but it was really a note to himself? Is this then also a crime the same as that against a real child?
Or this kind of manipulation
Suppose you are “Autoworker”
Vigilante group goes with “Ladygagafan31”
Autoworker: Hi
Ladygagafan31: Hiiii
Autoworker: you look really cute
Ladygagafan31: hehehe dats wat every1 says
Autoworker: Do you like dancing with the stars
Ladygagafan31: Omg it’s my fave show
10 minutes later
Ladygagafan31: I love dancing I love dancing in front of Walmart parking lot hehehe
… I live right next 2 the Walmart so I walk there going home from school
Autoworker : I actually have to get a lightbulb from Walmart and maybe I can see you dance when I go
Ladygagafan31: yea that would be kewl….
Then like they chat for a few days and
Ladygagafan31 says : what else would u like to do at Walmart like … would you dance 2?
Then autoworker says: We will see I guess
Ladygagafan31: with me I never danced with ne1 b4
You see how this goes
Then fastforward one week later
Autoworker goes to Walmart gets lightbulb and is approached by “excuse me are you ‘autoworker’
Ummm did you miss that it says on profile page “14|F “ ummm isn’t it a coincidence you’re here now ? You came here to meet a 14yo…. I’m Hansen a private group that exposes online predators and this is being recorded ….
The only people who would think "trapping" a pedophile is "going to far", are the pedophiles themselves.
What about pedo sympathizers who claim we need to call them "minor attracted persons"??? I don't believe they are all pedos. I think many of them are naive and believe that a sizable number of pedos can be reformed, if we just try hard enough with group therapy and such...
The only people who would think "trapping" a pedophile is "going to far", are the pedophiles themselves.
Sadly, laws are already on the books to protect the perps via the entrapment laws. I always wondered why these laws exist, and I just think it's because it helps the criminals escape justice more easily.
People have the instinct to protect themselves. At a young age the can figure out that they are members of a group that is exposed to a certain danger. The natural course is for them to confront the danger together.
Vigilante "justice" is illegal and many times targets the wrong person.
This is why police dont really like these kinds of groups, or endorse what they do.
Police have always taken the stance that 'vigilantism' is not tolerated, even going back decades.
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