Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
5,735 posts, read 3,256,509 times
Reputation: 3147

Advertisements

of course the usual talking heads and political leaders get on air and scream for more gun laws.

I am a kid of the 70s/80s. We did not have these issues back then. If we did, it was extremely rare and the shooter had MENTAL and/or EMOTIONAL issues. When are we as a nation going to look and see what has changed in the last 40 years? We had weaker gun laws back then and did not have shooting like this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
2,189 posts, read 1,406,403 times
Reputation: 2016
Without going into details, at this time anyway, we have become a kooky nation. Morality is no longer held important. A lot of wrong things today are contributing to it.

I have a saying "Stupid people do Stupid things".

And a Kooky nation will do Kooky things.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:30 AM
 
4,345 posts, read 2,797,563 times
Reputation: 5821
Mental health is a diversion. If people weren't told they had it, they wouldn't have it. It's not like cancer or std's.

In WWI US soldiers were told they had shell shock so they had it. German soldiers weren't and they didn't.

Now they're told they have PTSD so they exhibit it. Israeli soldiers are not told they have it so they don't.

People are extremely susceptible to suggestion.

That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
5,735 posts, read 3,256,509 times
Reputation: 3147
like I said, guns including assault weapons were more easily available back when I was growing up and we did not have mass shootings like we do today.



More gun laws are the diversion.







Quote:
Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
Mental health is a diversion. If people weren't told they had it, they wouldn't have it. It's not like cancer or std's.

In WWI US soldiers were told they had shell shock so they had it. German soldiers weren't and they didn't.

Now they're told they have PTSD so they exhibit it. Israeli soldiers are not told they have it so they don't.

People are extremely susceptible to suggestion.

That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
14,267 posts, read 6,964,408 times
Reputation: 17878
Quote:
Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
Mental health is a diversion. If people weren't told they had it, they wouldn't have it. It's not like cancer or std's.

In WWI US soldiers were told they had shell shock so they had it. German soldiers weren't and they didn't.

Now they're told they have PTSD so they exhibit it. Israeli soldiers are not told they have it so they don't.

People are extremely susceptible to suggestion.

That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
You could use a bit of education in psychology and mental health. People do not develop conditions because they are told to.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
24,502 posts, read 17,255,259 times
Reputation: 35800
I remember the 80's and we had something that was dubbed "Going Postal". It was where an over worked over stressed postal worker would take a gun to work and shoot his supervisor and maybe a few others that his troubled mind deemed as part of the problem. How did the PO stop this problem?



I think many of the shootings involved Vietnam Vets that were suffering from PTSD and when more stress was dropped on them they snapped.



We are seeing the same thing play out now. The last 2 mass shootings involved young guys, one of whom was interviewed by the FBI for his disturbing rants but both shooters were living on what they perceived as the fringe of society with little hope of ever fitting in.

This is scary because we now have millions of children that are being taught all manner of Far Left Leaning nonsense with some being made to feel ashamed they are white and others that are questioning their gender and themselves.

We are heading towards as time where an entire generation is going to be confused, unhappy with who they are and easily triggered to anger with few consequences for their outbursts.

The kids are being fed a recipe of garbage that will leave them with an upset stomach of PTSD.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:03 AM
 
29,511 posts, read 14,673,560 times
Reputation: 14459
Quote:
Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
Mental health is a diversion. If people weren't told they had it, they wouldn't have it. It's not like cancer or std's.

In WWI US soldiers were told they had shell shock so they had it. German soldiers weren't and they didn't.

Now they're told they have PTSD so they exhibit it. Israeli soldiers are not told they have it so they don't.

People are extremely susceptible to suggestion.

That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
You make absolutely zero sense. Are you saying that because people have access to semi auto rifles, it drives them to kill other innocent humans ? That alone sounds like a sign of mental illness. Not to mention, a perfect mentally healthy person doesn't want to commit murder.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:05 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
25,776 posts, read 18,840,914 times
Reputation: 22625
Quote:
Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
And what is the real issue here? That everyone is a killer en embryo and just needs a little coaxing?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
9,546 posts, read 7,078,098 times
Reputation: 14047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Troyfan View Post
Mental health is a diversion. If people weren't told they had it, they wouldn't have it. It's not like cancer or std's.

In WWI US soldiers were told they had shell shock so they had it. German soldiers weren't and they didn't.

Now they're told they have PTSD so they exhibit it. Israeli soldiers are not told they have it so they don't.

People are extremely susceptible to suggestion.

That's what's going on here. People who oppose banning assault weapons raise mental health as a way to avoid having to confront the real issue.
Sorry, no, but you don’t know what you are talking about.

Depression is real, and unfortunately often leads to suicide and other terrible outcomes. Medication often saves lives.

What is a problem is the class of anti-depressants known as SSRI’s

This is a must read article that outlines the increased use of SSRI’s, how they came to be labeled as dangerous, and gives a long list of mass deaths where the killer was on SSRI’s, including the Columbine killers and Dylan Roof.

https://www.psychreg.org/antidepress...s_and_violence

Did you know that SSRI’s are the third most taken drug in America, after NSAIDs like ibuprofen? Did you know there has been a 400% increase in the use of SSRIs since they were introduced? Or that 11% of Americans over the age of 12 take an SSRI?

Did you know:

Quote:
According to a review of the FDA’s database, 484 drugs were identified as triggers to serious adverse events significant enough to warrant a case study during the five-year period from 2004 through 2009. Of these 484 medications, 31 were identified to have a ‘disproportionate’ association with violence. These 31 drugs make up 78.8% of all cases of violence toward others in the FDA’s database and included multiple psychotropic medications:

• 11 antidepressants
• 6 hypnotic/sedatives
• 3 ADHD medications
• 1 smoking cessation drug

Researchers concluded that violence against others was a ‘genuine and serious adverse drug event’ and that of the 484 medications, the drugs that were most consistently and strongly associated with violence were the smoking cessation medication, varenicline (Chantix), and SSRIs.
Did you know that violence towards others as well as suicide as a result of taking an SSRI is most common in those under the age of 25?

Here’s one example detailed in the article:

Quote:

2012: James Holmes, also known as the Batman Movie killer, was taking sertraline when he walked into the showing of The Dark Knight with two .40 caliber pistols, an AR-style .223 rifle, and a 12 gauge shotgun, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. In his personal notebook, which he sent to his psychiatrist the same day as the shooting, shows that as the medication decreased his anxiety, he lost his fear of consequences. As the dosage became higher, his thoughts became more obsessive and psychotic.
Ignoring the pharmaceutical industry that has caused this while putting the blame solely on guns will do nothing to stop these horrible incidents. Nothing. Because people will then use knives or cars or bombs.

Failure to acknowledge this means that your only goal is to disarm Americans, and not to actually help prevent these tragedies.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2022, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
23,652 posts, read 14,013,729 times
Reputation: 18861
Here's a wild notion to what could be pushing people over the edge......maybe its our available anywhere, anytime porn world that shows it in a "very realistic manner". That is, it is without a soundtrack, life doesn't come with a soundtrack, and without the constant loops of the good scene.

We show people a world like that but if they get to reality, it is "where is my wanton w****, where is my knight in shining armor?". Couple with it an advertising and entertainment world that shows that everyone eventually gets their SO, maybe people who are facing the reality that it is NOTHING AT ALL like what they have been fed all their life, are snapping.

Just theorizing.....mind you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:43 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top