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Old 05-01-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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Lets be clear every $1 Spent subsidizing Ukraine's efforts against Russia is $10 saved fighting them later and we suffer 0 casualties. If putin wins this does not stop in Ukraine or Taiwan or South Korea, or Japan. This will snowball into a hellscape.
Yep!

Putin’s war aim is not merely to conquer Ukraine but to overthrow international order itself. It’s worth accepting costs to make sure that Russia fails and emerges ----from their atrociously barbaric and unjustified war on Ukraine's sovereignty and her people's democracy---- unable to wage such aggression again.

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Old 05-01-2022, 03:23 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Zelensky also wants his allowance of $8 billion a month......
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Old 05-01-2022, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Everywhere.
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Reagan or Eisenhower would’ve had this finished before it started.
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Old 05-01-2022, 04:42 PM
 
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Zelensky also wants his allowance of $8 billion a month......

We given a lot of aid to a lot of other leaders who were a helluva lot more ignoble.


There is one way to win here: Kill More Russians.
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Old 05-01-2022, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Biden wants another nap. Somebody else wants this money and Biden is the mouthpiece.
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Old 05-01-2022, 04:57 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Biden wants another 33 billion in addition to the billions we already gave to fight a proxy war in Ukraine.

This new money is equivalent to $100 for every US citizen - that's $500 for a family of 5.

We don't have the money so we'll create it out of thin air.

Do you support Biden's new money dump into Ukraine?
A Republican president would be doing the same thing as Biden, possibly even more. So are multiple presidents and prime ministers from around the Free World from Britain to Australia and from Spain to Japan. It does not matter what political party they belong to or whether they are liberal or conservative - they are all trying to stop an invasion of conquest by a militaristic dictatorship.

If you want to complain about wasting money, blame Putin, he is the one responsible.
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Old 05-01-2022, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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33 billion? This bastard sure does love his Freemasonry symbolism...
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Old 05-01-2022, 05:50 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Yep!

Putin’s war aim is not merely to conquer Ukraine but to overthrow international order itself. It’s worth accepting costs to make sure that Russia fails and emerges ----from their atrociously barbaric and unjustified war on Ukraine's sovereignty and her people's democracy---- unable to wage such aggression again.
Oh so you are worried that he'll try to invade the US next ?
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Old 05-01-2022, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Biden wants another 33 billion in addition to the billions we already gave to fight a proxy war in Ukraine.

This new money is equivalent to $100 for every US citizen - that's $500 for a family of 5.

We don't have the money so we'll create it out of thin air.

Do you support Biden's new money dump into Ukraine?
I'm all for us spending our fair share.

I'm all for us shouldering more burden since all those EU-adjacent countries haven't increased spending/developed their own defense burden.

I'm not for us being the source of the vast majority of the funding for something that has no clear economic or political benefit to the US when those who DO have both economic and political benefits sit on their hands.
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Old 05-01-2022, 05:56 PM
 
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Yep!

Putin’s war aim is not merely to conquer Ukraine but to overthrow international order itself.
How do you know that?

Some "expert" on CNN was saying Putin was doing this because he wanted to be "right up on NATO" and by taking over Ukraine, Russia could border NATO countries. Apparently he didn't know that (A) Russia doesn't want Ukraine in NATO and (B) NATO moved right up on Russia with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

Seems like experts just make stuff up.
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