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Old 05-13-2022, 11:16 PM
 
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What's a "maker"? Many of us have no need for imaginary critters to rule our lives. And an abortion doesn't kill babies. Most are done at the embryo stage

It ends the life of a human being. Life begins at conception. Again, this is science.

 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:20 PM
 
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They do NOT say it is a baby at conception. I gave you the biological realities. You are ignoring them.
Once again, you brought up the word human being. You said: "A human being is a baby once it is born."

That's not true. Life ( a human being) begins at conception. This is science not opinion. Over 95% of biologists. How am I ignoring them when it's you?
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:28 PM
 
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It ends the life of a human being. Life begins at conception. Again, this is science.
Lives of human beings are flushed down the toilet at a rate of hundreds of thousands a year. For every successful pregnancy, it’s estimated that a woman not using birth control will early miscarry twice as often. I don’t see anyone hand wringing and gnashing teeth over those lives.

How many very heavy period funerals have you attended lately?
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:45 PM
 
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What is the point of ending roe v wade. It won't stop abortions. So what exactly is the goal to be achieved.
Ending Roe is not about abortions.

The point of ending Roe vs Wade is a step toward restoring federalism, our Constitution's big tent system in which the states, and people therein, get to determine their own destiny and set the rules concerning those matters which affect the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.


JWK
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:45 PM
 
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Lives of human beings are flushed down the toilet at a rate of hundreds of thousands a year. For every successful pregnancy, it’s estimated that a woman not using birth control will early miscarry twice as often. I don’t see anyone hand wringing and gnashing teeth over those lives.

How many very heavy period funerals have you attended lately?
That's your opinion of which human beings are worthless and which ones not. I corrected the poster on the scientific definition when human life begins and is not at birth.

Giving opinions which human lives are worthless and which ones to protect is another debate. The Declaration of Independence states the government protects Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. The Scientific definition when life begin is at conception.

The government does everything in their power to protect life. If there is a miscarry is not the same thing as abortions on demand carried by a doctor . Isn't? and how are you protecting life and pursuit of happiness when you end a life by the actions of a doctor sanctioned by the state? Isn't that contradicting on itself?
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:48 PM
 
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It ends the life of a human being. Life begins at conception. Again, this is science.
Conception does not equal "a baby". That is biology.
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:50 PM
 
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Conception does not equal "a baby". That is biology.
And what does that have to do with ending Roe which would help restore federalism?
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:50 PM
 
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From grooming kids and killing babies people need to open their eyes what the Democratic party is today!
 
Old 05-13-2022, 11:55 PM
 
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Conception does not equal "a baby". That is biology.

I never said such thing and now you are playing dumb and moving the goal post. You said to be a Human Being (a LIFE) a baby needs to be born. That's false for the 5th time and you double down on playing dumb.


Human life begins at conception. This is science. A baby is a stage of a human being.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 12:05 AM
 
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Ending Roe is not about abortions.

The point of ending Roe vs Wade is a step toward restoring federalism, our Constitution's big tent system in which the states, and people therein, get to determine their own destiny and set the rules concerning those matters which affect the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.


JWK
The consequences of ending Roe is most definitely about abortions.

I understand your points about the legal/constitutional aspects of ending Roe. I have been reading your posts here. But law has to be balanced with how it affects people in real life. That is why this Supreme Court case has so many people upset, on both sides.
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