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Originally Posted by Teacher Terry
As a former social worker I have seen a ton of poverty, hungry kids and abused kids. Ideally birth control is the answer with the morning after pill as a fallback with abortions being a last resort.
I agree.
And now, in many of the poorest areas, safe legal abortions won't be an option.
Yes, obviously. And a spike in gang violence in about 15 yrs
Yep, one more reason this new Republican is still "Pro"-Abortion. I would rather pay a few hundred dollars for an abortion than to pay hundreds of thousands in jail time and welfare. Just think of the pain, suffering, and death, that could be avoided if Murder's, Rapist, Fentanyl and Heroin dealers were aborted in the first place
It is interesting how tone deaf pro-choicers are when it comes to some of their arguments they try to make. They deliberately ignore the core position of pro-lifers and manufacture silly pro-choice logics that do not rebut pro-life arguments. They also manfacture fake positions like saying it is about a woman's body. That is just what they believe is the best argument today. The bottom line is that the pro-life argument is that a fetus is a person deserving of protection from murder. You cant say "well, if you dont let us murder fetuses there will be more poor people!" The pro-choice position is really that they think people should have the opportunity to abort fetuses so that they dont "ruin their lives" by being stuck with a baby.
No, we know what the core position of anti abortionists is. Its that sapient human life begins at conception. Most of us just dont agree. Sure there are some catholic Democrat politicians who try and have it both ways, but most pro-choice people dont believe zygotes and early embryos are yet human.
Very little will change. People will either travel out of state or the new post-contraceptive pill will become much more popular.
Not all can travel as you think everything is so easy. The pill is being banned as well, abortion is abortion, they want to make it a crime. Read the news.
I'm assuming that one of the main reasons women have abortions is for financial reasons. They simply can't afford to have a child or have another child. If abortions were to be banned with the exception of rape and sever medical reasons would we see an increase in child poverty if women no longer have the option for abortions outside of those two reasons? Would this cause a need to expand the welfare state to help support all of these children living with struggling parents?
Yes. And, according to Janey Yellen today, banning abortion would be horrible for the economy! I'm starting to think she is now suffering from Joe Biden's foot in mouth problem.
It is interesting how tone deaf pro-choicers are when it comes to some of their arguments they try to make. They deliberately ignore the core position of pro-lifers and manufacture silly pro-choice logics that do not rebut pro-life arguments. They also manfacture fake positions like saying it is about a woman's body. That is just what they believe is the best argument today. The bottom line is that the pro-life argument is that a fetus is a person deserving of protection from murder. You cant say "well, if you dont let us murder fetuses there will be more poor people!" The pro-choice position is really that they think people should have the opportunity to abort fetuses so that they dont "ruin their lives" by being stuck with a baby.
And most pro-choice people disagree with your basic premise. Therefore, if we can't agree on what is a "person", then we're unlikely to agree on what might be ethical behavior regarding that fetus.
And if you want to talk about manufacturing "silly logic", then please explain to me why most of the "pro-life" advocates seem to lose interest in what happens to that fetus once it gets out of the womb. Once it exits the birth canal, then the baby and mother (along with the rest of the family) are no longer a concern of the "pro-life" crowd.
Are you equally adamant about what happens to the young unwanted kids AFTER they're born? If so, then what ways do you show it? Do you volunteer to babysit for young unwed mothers so they can continue their schooling or work at a job? Do you volunteer to help the mother who just had her fourth kid and whose husband is working at a low wage job trying to keep them fed and clothed? Or does your interest in what happens to that mother and child end once the child is born?
Yep, one more reason this new Republican is still "Pro"-Abortion. I would rather pay a few hundred dollars for an abortion than to pay hundreds of thousands in jail time and welfare. Just think of the pain, suffering, and death, that could be avoided if Murder's, Rapist, Fentanyl and Heroin dealers were aborted in the first place
An unwanted child only faces pain. Even the adopted have a thing about mom not wanting them, even when have the greatest adoptive parents. It’s a scar hard to erase. But WTH, the Reps don’t care about the kid, it’s about making women submit.
An unwanted child only faces pain. Even the adopted have a thing about mom not wanting them, even when have the greatest adoptive parents. It’s a scar hard to erase. But WTH, the Reps don’t care about the kid, it’s about making women submit.
Those Republican's should realize that even in their ranks, the majority are fine with Roe v Wade. The court that passed Roe v Wade was a Republican court. Guess they were brighter back then Anyway, Dems will get violent as they have shown already, just like they did supporting the BLM riots, and we can look at them at them and say "I told you so, Dems are violent crazy people, and creating an unstable country".
Anyway it plays out it won't change anything in the mid terms.
An unwanted child only faces pain. Even the adopted have a thing about mom not wanting them, even when have the greatest adoptive parents. It’s a scar hard to erase. But WTH, the Reps don’t care about the kid, it’s about making women submit.
And you and yours don't care about the unborn who will never get a chance to live at all. Many adopted kids have full and happy lives contrary to the scenario you are painting.
It has nothing to do with making women submit either. That's just leftist, liberal rubbish.
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Anyway, Dems will get violent as they have shown already, just like they did supporting the BLM riots, and we can look at them at them and say "I told you so, Dems are violent crazy people, and creating an unstable country". 
