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Old 06-06-2022, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Starting to hear Republicans in the senate are going to vote to raise the age to buy a rifle to 21 and a red flag law. That would have stopped this one guy from buying an AR-15 he could have just gone to a gun show and buy private party even though it would be illegal to transfer a firearm to someone under the age of 21 just like a handgun.
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Old 06-06-2022, 12:26 AM
 
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Starting to hear Republicans in the senate are going to vote to raise the age to buy a rifle to 21 and a red flag law. That would have stopped this one guy from buying an AR-15 he could have just gone to a gun show and buy private party even though it would be illegal to transfer a firearm to someone under the age of 21 just like a handgun.

So killing 20 people isn't illegal? So killing it's illegal but he still did it. What makes you think prohibiting him from buying a gun he would have obey it and not kill? Many criminals get guns in the black market. If you look at data most criminals in prison got their weapons illegally (broke the law, imagine that criminals breaking the law?)

There is NO evidence that a law would have prevented him from getting a gun in the black market like most criminal do or not have killing thoughts.

Red flag laws isn't passing easily, even the ACLU has issues with it. The devil is in the details.
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Old 06-06-2022, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Starting to hear Republicans in the senate are going to vote to raise the age to buy a rifle to 21 and a red flag law. That would have stopped this one guy from buying an AR-15 he could have just gone to a gun show and buy private party even though it would be illegal to transfer a firearm to someone under the age of 21 just like a handgun.
Then you would have to raise the military age to 21

Never going to happen. Weapons training is a part of every services basic training.
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Old 06-06-2022, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Again, show me the numbers. I'm saying by the numbers that the AR-15 is not the crisis the anti-gun crowd are pushing. If We go by your hysteria We have to ban all weapons and you should start with handguns.
Tell me how need to die in mass shootings before it becomes a problem, 20 a week, 30? What's your number.

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Spoken like a person that doesn't know about guns. That's your opinion.
So you can't answer the question why anyone would need an AR-15, is it because they need it for home defense?

I served a tour in the infantry in the 25th division in Vietnam in 1969 so what would I know about the AR-15. Hard to believe that an 18 year old can buy the same gun as the M16.
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:04 AM
 
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Tell me how need to die in mass shootings before it becomes a problem, 20 a week, 30? What's your number.

so ban all guns so NO more shootings. Isn't that your logic?


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So you can't answer the question why anyone would need an AR-15, is it because they need it for home defense? I served a tour in the infantry in the 25th division in Vietnam in 1969 so what would I know about the AR-15. Hard to believe that an 18 year old can buy the same gun as the M16.

So you fought in Vietnam but can't tell the difference between an AR-15 to M-16/ AK-47.? I'm a Navy Vet that came after Nam and even I know the huge difference and my specialty was hunting Soviet nuclear submarines.

Not to get into the Vietnam war but you just proved the point of owning at least semi-automatics. You went in a foreign country with an M-16 to kill the Natives in their own country and you ask why somebody needs a semi-automatic weapon to defend their homes. Natives in Nam were being attacked by 2 armies with AK-47 and M-16 (automatic weapons) and you ask why somebody should have a semi- automatic at least? A Vietnam veteran of all people? O.K.
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:46 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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There is no good reason to prohibit the ownership of the AR-15. The act of owning one does no harm.
What?

The following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.


https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/11012...-mass-shooting
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:54 AM
 
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The police were definitely on the spot blocking anyone who wanted to stop the gunman and save kids.
The police did a remarkable job!

And Democrats want us to disarm.
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Old 06-06-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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Police are the enemy, Ive been saying this for years!


What kind of cop prevents someone from saving kids for petes sake?


Let all start a trend...STOP thanking police officers for their service! They are scum bags in every sense of the word.
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Old 06-06-2022, 09:02 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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19 dead children.

A small price to pay to provide a crisis that can be exploited to suppress people's rights.
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