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Do you have ANY idea how long it takes to change a magazine? All of about 2 seconds. Sure, that's plenty of time for a 4 year old to make it across the room and tackle him.
I keep saying this, but if you anti-gunners would take this seriously and at least learn about your enemy we might be willing to take YOU seriously. What we have is people showing NO effort to try to understand the problem but first in line to offer a solution.
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Weapons of war.
AR15s belong only on the battlefield.
We need to ban semi automatic firearms.
The average citizen doesn't need to own a machine gun.
So you see this as a security failure? I do to but I think we also need to address how to keep the guns out of the hands of a mentally ill teenage boy. If we could do that with screening that's fine. We can't as of yet.
My suggestion is that parents/guardians must be notified if a member of their household purchases and/or stores a gun in their home. That way the family can't say "we didn't know".
"Assault Rifle" is a term coined by the firearms press in the 70s, currently used by the government to refer to any semiautomatic, fully automatic, or hybrid rifles or any copy of same manufactured by weapons manufacturers (such as AR-15s), originally designed specifically for the military to kill a lot of people rapidly.
Cars kill people. Baseball bats kill people. Knives kill people. When someone wants to kill a lot of people in a hurry, they always default to a semiautomatic rifle, multiple high cap magazines, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. I never have figured out why, with the world so full of deadly things that are a lot cheaper and more readily available.
Or a handgun, an SUV, a crock pot, a pipe bomb, an anthrax laced letter, etc.
Just because you ignore these other things doesn't mean they don't exist.
Once again: RIFLES are used very rarely overall in gun crimes.
"Assault Rifle" is a term coined by the firearms press in the 70s, currently used by the government to refer to any semiautomatic, fully automatic, or hybrid rifles or any copy of same manufactured by weapons manufacturers (such as AR-15s), originally designed specifically for the military to kill a lot of people rapidly.
Cars kill people. Baseball bats kill people. Knives kill people. When someone wants to kill a lot of people in a hurry, they always default to a semiautomatic rifle, multiple high cap magazines, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. I never have figured out why, with the world so full of deadly things that are a lot cheaper and more readily available.
Wrong. Do you even bother to research anything before you type it ?
Here are the facts. Just stop.
Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 146 different handguns being used in 98 incidents between 1982 and June 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 129 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 76 percent of mass shootings.
stoner wanted to use plastic to make a lighter weapon, automatic weapons sometimes need their cyclic rate REDUCED for multiple reasons...the smaller M2 carbine of ww2 was capable of automatic fire however bullets start getting heavy and unwieldy....
the term "assault weapon" is just a popularized term being used for military "style" weaponry....however i believe the smaller caliber bullet used in the ar-15 tumbles to create greater damage and the choice of ammunition also comes into play
"One of the earliest uses of the term, or a similar term, in its current meaning was in a bill introduced by Art Agnos in the California State Assembly in April 1985 to ban semi-automatic "assault firearms" capable of using detachable magazines of 20 rounds or more.[21][22] Speaking to the Assembly Public Safety Committee, Agnos said, "The only use for assault weapons is to shoot people."[21] The measure did not pass when it came up for a vote.[22]
In 2013, The Washington Post, looking into the history of the term, wrote of the term: "Many attribute its popularization to a 1988 paper written by gun-control activist and Violence Policy Center founder Josh Sugarmann and the later reaction to the Cleveland School massacre in Stockton, California, in January 1989."[6]Sugarmann had written: Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."
the .223/5.56 caliber make the perfect gun for young or small-frame hunters. But is that caliber a legitimate choice for the deer hunter? Just a few short years ago, I would probably answer that question with a “not really.” Yea, the .223 would get the job done, particularly on smaller deer in the deep south, but there was just too much margin for error to make it a reliable deer cartridge.
But, all that has changed in recent years. Ammunition manufacturers, noting the increased popularity of AR rifles among hunters, have set about making the .223/5.56 a genuine deer cartridge. To make this happen, they have borrowed proven designs from other big game bullets and added innovative new features specific to the lightweight bullets found in the .223 to form a tough and reliable cartridge tailor made for deer hunting with the modern rifle platform.
you do know that these cartridges are NOT the same.
in fact they do not reliably chamber across the caliber. my tactical weapon is a savage 110 letters letters letters in .223. nato 5.56 wont work
the little deer hunter is going to use the lower pressure 223 with a non fully jacketed slug.. .223 on a deer is too much a work of art firing it. you want expansion and precision. front shoulder to neck shot with a hollow point is the best way to go. there are bigger rounds someone small can handle without having a wound, that runs away
How can any actual dialogue happen when one side continues to lie and spread disinformation, even when presented with facts ? Unfortunately, I think we are past all that.
As long as you continue to do the two sides thing we can't.
So many definitions of assault rifle, it depends but the intention is to define it as a military rifle which is the case. The AR-15 uses the same platform as the M16 used in Vietnam and is different in only one respect, most AR-15's don't have the option for full automatic. It has nothing to do with scary as it has been used in many mass shootings, it's not emotion it's fact.
There have been several threads with the same title, why this is so important. Let's just say it doesn't belong in the hands of any civilian.
"most AR-15's don't have the option for full automatic.
What AR does?
"Let's just say it doesn't belong in the hands of any civilian."
You DO KNOW AR stands for the company that makes them, right!
you do know that these cartridges are NOT the same.
in fact they do not reliably chamber across the caliber. my tactical weapon is a savage 110 letters letters letters in .223. nato 5.56 wont work
the little deer hunter is going to use the lower pressure 223 with a non fully jacketed slug.. .223 on a deer is too much a work of art firing it. you want expansion and precision. front shoulder to neck shot with a hollow point is the best way to go. there are bigger rounds someone small can handle without having a wound, that runs away
Never said they were.
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