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Old 06-16-2022, 01:38 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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But so it that why the stock market crashed because the rate wasn't high enough?

I'd be okay with higher rates but we are debt free...
It's crashing with a mix of things...and all not good.
Also I'd venture the government is not being honest with us.
Yellen says there will be no recession.
Powell is saying there will be no recession.

These 2 have a track record of 0 accurate predictions and 2 wildly wrong predictions.
1. Printing money won't cause inflation
2. Inflation is temporary, won't go above 2% and will be over by Dec 2021

Do you think anyone is going to believe what they are saying today about "no recession" ?
In bizarro world (today) that means we're about to have a recession folks


Here's a good summary:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock...114840208.html
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Old 06-16-2022, 01:43 PM
 
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Did you say this when Trump was President?

Nope. It was a different story then…

“ This crash and the others are basically a no confidence vote against the Trump administration.” - stone28

https://www.city-data.com/forum/57564630-post17.html


Go figure.
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Old 06-16-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Oh for heaven's sake, lol. Well, then, why didn't Trump get rid of him?
No president, including Trump, has ever tried to remove a member of the Federal Reserve for any reason.
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Old 06-16-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Oh for heaven's sake, lol. Well, then, why didn't Trump get rid of him?
And the lesson for today is:

The Chair of the Federal Reserve:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_...ederal_Reserve
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Old 06-16-2022, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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No president, including Trump, has ever tried to remove a member of the Federal Reserve for any reason.
No, but no only did Trump keep him, Trump elevated him to chair of the Federal Reserve. Jeezuz. Lol
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:23 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Strange. Every Friday Clara said the stock market was going to skyrocket back to new highs.

Pondy stated it was wise financial advice to invest all your money into the market last Fall. Imagine if people listened to that advice.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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5% is "skyrocketed" ????

Oh this is just getting started friends.

The Federal Reserve has to get back $15 TRILLION dollars it printed out of thin air.

This is what the FedReserve and Treasury said last year:
Powell said inflation would not go above 2%
Yellen said it would be temporary and would be over by December 2021
3.8% March 1 30 year fixed.
5.9% today

Up 200 basis points in 3 months. That is a moonshot.

May be the fasted rise in the 30-year fixed rate all time. Nobody has said it is "done" yet. We will see how fast we get to 8%.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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You have two choices.

1) Cry like a wussy and play the victim

2) Man up

You are wasting time blaming Mr Magoo for this or that. Go out there and do your best.

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Did you say this when Trump was President?
The economy was soaring when Trump was President.

Last edited by Igor Blevin; 06-16-2022 at 03:57 PM..
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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The economy was soaring when Trump was President?
Funny how short memories are.

There was steady, even robust growth under Trump's first three years in office. The data is there.

Even the COVID induced slowdown was already rapidly recovering by end of 2020 and when Trump left office the economy was strongly rebounding.
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Old 06-16-2022, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The democrats have nothing to do with raising rates. It's all on Powell.
The Democrats wanted even more and larger stimulus bills than the GOP would allow. This would have resulted in much more printing and eventually higher interest rates.

Jerome Powell didn't pass any stimulus bills. He just had to deal with the aftermath, which he screwed up by not raising rates and selling bonds sooner. But this is largely on the Democrats, who couldn't spend fast enough. Trump and the GOP were complicit.
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