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Old 06-16-2022, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Have you heard the rhetoric from Janet Yellen??? All this stuff, our alphabet agencies, our judicial system, all of our basic pillars of civilization... It's all been politicized. I don't care if someone is a democrat or a republican. They should have a problem with that, if they truly understand the scope of the problem and the ramifications. The people deserve better. I would never want to see these institutions weaponized and used against democrats.



I think it's wrong that Trump tried to get the federal reserve to cave to his demands and wants for low interest rates. He basically stood in the way of something that should have been done. All that stuff is supposed to be kept far away from the control and manipulation of the executive branch.



Biden will be the guy that absorbs a lot of the ramifications of potentially rapidly rising interest rates. That's basically what he signed up for. It's baked into the cake. I applaud him for his willingness. I certainly wouldn't be signing up for that.
The Fed jacked up rates to kill the Trump recovery and would have toppled the the economy into a recession, until the sudden appearance of Covid pushed us into a recession.

The Fed was wrong to jack up rates so high so fast under Trump. There was no call for it. It was sabatoge by the Fed, pure and simple.




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Old 06-16-2022, 03:59 PM
 
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America is being flushed down the toilet because of Biden and Democrat policies.

It remains only for President Trump to finish the job in 2025.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The Fed jacked up rates to kill the Trump recovery and would have toppled the the economy into a recession, until the sudden appearance of Covid pushed us into a recession.

The Fed was wrong to jack up rates so high so fast under Trump. There was no call for it. It was sabatoge by the Fed, pure and simple.




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Those rate hikes were just a tease as well.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:01 PM
 
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"I's gots a way to lower the mortgage rates. Make mortgages fwee!"

-- Kamala "Deep Thoughts" Harris
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:01 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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based on the precipitous drop in the stock market, it appears the market is signaling the country is headed for recession.
Some analysts say we are already in one right now.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:03 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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The democrats have nothing to do with raising rates. It's all on Powell.
Powell is forced to raise rates BECAUSE of the failed policies of the left.

Why won't Democrats ever learn about basic economics?
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:05 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Nope. It was a different story then…

“ This crash and the others are basically a no confidence vote against the Trump administration.” - stone28

https://www.city-data.com/forum/57564630-post17.html


Go figure.
Gotta love the search feature. It's easy to point out the hypocrisy of the left using their own words against them.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:08 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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It remains only for President Trump to finish the job in 2025.
Trump will never be President again.

It will be up to whomever the Democrats put up against Trump or DeSantis. Those are the only two viable outcomes.
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:37 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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The President DOES not set monetary policy.

The Federal Reserve does.

You have Yellen and Powell...not Obama, Trump, Biden.

Have you forgotten the famous words:

Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!
Rothschild
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Old 06-16-2022, 04:37 PM
 
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based on the precipitous drop in the stock market, it appears the market is signaling the country is headed for recession.
Yes-

The BIG ISSUE that the markets have no factored in is the QUANTITATIVE TIGHTENING, which is going to impact things to a greater extent than high inflation and rising interest rates.

The Fed is REMOVING $1 TRILLION IN LIQUIDITY FROM THE MARKETS PER YEAR FOR THREE YEARS. Even with that, the Fed will still have $6 trillion in excess bonds on its books.

This is not going to end quickly and will be a prolonged downturn. It would be very difficult for the markets to turn around or the economy to turn around while removing $1 trillion per year from the economy. It would not be impossible, but very, very unlikely.

Think about it- the tailwinds that drove the markets up for the last 13 years and conditioned NEW INVESTORS to believe "buy the dips", "its a good buying opportunity", and the markets recover in a few weeks are going to get their heads handed to them. They believed the pundits and ignored valuations that were 3X historic values and only exceeded by 2000. The valuations when this began were higher than 1929. You had Cramer and idiots at Goldman Sachs saying stocks were "cheap" at DOw 36,000! What were they smoking?

Hang onto your hats- we are experiencing the very beginning of a historic economic and market beat down. There is no "dry powder" for the Fed to intervene, as we already have record inflation. These were bubbles that were inflated by poor Fed policy and greed. Now people are starting to understand they have been screwed.
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