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Little chemical China Syndromes waiting to melt through the pavement. Hot tip ... don't garage it at home. Leave it way out at the end of the driveway by the street and charge up at work in the parking garage.
Actually much much bigger danger from an ICE vehicle - over 60x more risk according to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) and the U.S. Fire Administration statistics.
The batteries take up a significant part of the lower part of the car. I would think anything other then a small, parking lot fender bender would damage the batteries. Get past the crumple zone and you are into the batteries! One damaged cell ignites the rest.
Not correct - the NHTSA study issued in October 2017 looked at whether the high-voltage batteries can cause fires when they are being charged and when the vehicles are involved in an accident. The report concluded, "The overall consequences for Li-ion batteries are expected to be less because of the much smaller amounts of flammable solvent released and burning in a catastrophic failure situation."
Our daughter is a 911 dispatcher, as is our neighbor. Both for large metropolitan areas.
Both said that their fire departments are having a beach of a time extinguishing EV fires
The leftie media says not much of a danger, but I wouldn't have one in my garage if you gave it to me
It is not "lefty media" it is the actual data that says not dangerous - and your giving 3rd hand information as if it was accurate and representative, very misleading.
Especially towards the useful end of it's battery life so you might get lucky and someone steals the useless thing and you can claim full loss on your insurance. Beats paying half again your initial purchase price for the vehicle that is now worth less than the new battery you have to buy just to keep the thing mobile.
So much bad / false info - try again - the useful life of the battery is about the life of the vehicle and replacing it is no where close to half the cost of new even if put in all new one instead of much cheaper refurbished.
Actually much much bigger danger from an ICE vehicle - over 60x more risk according to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) and the U.S. Fire Administration statistics.
Duh! Because there are many more ICE vehicles on the road!
Where do they think all those elements come from to make the batteries? Chances are they are taken out of a huge strip mine with heavy diesel equipment processing the dirt or in some third world countries kids are tasked to pull it out of the ground. Talk about the carbon footprint to extract, assemble then ship the batteries to the Tesla factory.
The owners then need to charge those batteries and where do they think that electricity is coming from? Chances are it is a power plant that is burning fossil fuels to create it.
Imagine all the pollution that is emitted into the atmosphere and the ground when one of those EV's goes up in flames.
They tell us to go Green with an EV but seriously they are not that Green when you think about it.
Where do you guys get your (mis)information from - normally Lithium is "mined" by pumping lithium-containing water from underground lakes and evaporates in large basins. Most LI comes from Australia and Chile - and a Tesla / Panasonic partnership makes most of Tesla US batteries at a plant near Reno NV - not any of it 3rd world using child labor.
A NG power plant is many times more efficient and less polluting than ICE vehicles - NG is source for 38.3% of US capacity. More than 42% of EVs are in CA where natural gas make up 37.4% of electricity production, coal and petroleum make up 0.2% combined, while renewable and nuclear energy sources makes up 62.4% as of March 2022 according to EIA. So chances are that renewables or cleaner NG are powering the average EV.
Duh! Because there are many more ICE vehicles on the road!
Are you really that dense - 60x more risk is the probability of occurrence per vehicle in use - the actual numbers are 25 per 100K EVs and 1529 per 100K ICE.
Are you really that dense - 60x more risk is the probability of occurrence per vehicle in use - the actual numbers are 25 per 100K EVs and 1529 per 100K ICE.
I wanna see a better break down of those numbers...they smell too fishy. I want you to put them in 2 sets of 2 columns. column 1 and 2 for EV fires, column 1, car was in a wreck or otherwise compromised, column 2 car was perfectly fine to all appearances sitting there.
second set, ICE fires, same column headings, column 1 wreck or compromised, column 2 perfectly fine.
my prediction: In the EV set, column 2 is much much higher than column 1. In the ICE set column 1 contains all the numbers, column 2 is zero.
Prove me wrong. You said you have the data. how hard could it be
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