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Old 06-28-2022, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I am not the one who made that claim, although I have heard this claim made before. I was just clarifying what Deism is. Ask the person who said it above for more information. (Submariner, Post #121.)

I've never looked deeply into this.
They were accepted as Christians and there’s a list of each one’s belief.

Whatever their beliefs, the Founders came from similar religious backgrounds. Most were Protestants. The largest number were raised in the three largest Christian traditions of colonial America—Anglicanism (as in the cases of John Jay, George Washington, and Edward Rutledge), Presbyterianism (as in the cases of Richard Stockton and the Rev. John Witherspoon), and Congregationalism (as in the cases of John Adams and Samuel Adams). Other Protestant groups included the Society of Friends (Quakers), the Lutherans, and the Dutch Reformed. Three Founders—Charles Carroll and Daniel Carroll of Maryland and Thomas Fitzsimmons of Pennsylvania—were of Roman Catholic heritage.y

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The...e%20assistance.

Because you were baptized in any group does not guarantee their beliefs and apparently they did vary. Now on those times, who had the money and power were not the Blacks, Chinese, Turks, Indians etc. They would have never been accepted in the ranks. They had no idea what 2022 be like. Mainstream politics, but they understood separation.

 
Old 06-28-2022, 03:05 PM
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The ideas that life is sacred, and abortion is a sin, are religious ideas. The fact that Roe v. Wade was improperly decided and was not grounded in the Constitution is a judicial decision. The fact that there is some overlap in this particular case does not mean that the overturn was a religious decision, per se.
Therein lies the problem. When there is overlap we are not headed down the road of separation. If the motivation to over turn roe was from the medical community we could buy it. How can something motivated by the church cannot be religious?
 
Old 06-28-2022, 03:06 PM
 
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Since a fetus conceived as a result of rape or incest has the same "personhood" that a fetus conceived on ones wedding night, then the Alabama abortion ban is one that distinguishes saints from sinners. It always religious. Nobody running on a pro-life platform will admit this.

Always? I know pro lifers that are not religious. They believe in science and when LIFE begins. I'm not religious. I stop going to church when I was 18 and my mom couldn't force me anymore and I'm with the Pro Life crowd

I'm alive and many more because my grandma who wasn't religious didn't kill my mother and she had every reason to, she was terminal ill but Grandma didn't die until she made sure she was taken care of. Those women are worth 1,000 more than the POS you see at the abortion rallies today.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 03:14 PM
 
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Therein lies the problem. When there is overlap we are not headed down the road of separation. If the motivation to over turn roe was from the medical community we could buy it. How can something motivated by the church cannot be religious?

Please. Stop the cr@p. It was constitutionally. It was a bad law to force on 50 states and the U.S. Territories on a made up law by 7 federal judges. Might as well a judge make a law that people that looks like me have a right to a Ferrari while you are it or have a right to a nice young woman with big breasts and a big behind for a wife. Or make it a right for all fat women to get lipo so they feel better about themselves. The S.C. didn't mention anything religious in their conclusion why they voted that way.




Even RGB said it was a bad law and the most anti-democratic decision by the court. Her words.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 04:17 PM
 
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They were accepted as Christians and there’s a list of each one’s belief.

Whatever their beliefs, the Founders came from similar religious backgrounds. Most were Protestants. The largest number were raised in the three largest Christian traditions of colonial America—Anglicanism (as in the cases of John Jay, George Washington, and Edward Rutledge), Presbyterianism (as in the cases of Richard Stockton and the Rev. John Witherspoon), and Congregationalism (as in the cases of John Adams and Samuel Adams). Other Protestant groups included the Society of Friends (Quakers), the Lutherans, and the Dutch Reformed. Three Founders—Charles Carroll and Daniel Carroll of Maryland and Thomas Fitzsimmons of Pennsylvania—were of Roman Catholic heritage.y

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The...e%20assistance.

Because you were baptized in any group does not guarantee their beliefs and apparently they did vary. Now on those times, who had the money and power were not the Blacks, Chinese, Turks, Indians etc. They would have never been accepted in the ranks. They had no idea what 2022 be like. Mainstream politics, but they understood separation.

I see, thanks.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 04:18 PM
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Please. Stop the cr@p. It was constitutionally. It was a bad law to force on 50 states and the U.S. Territories on a made up law by 7 federal judges. Might as well a judge make a law that people that looks like me have a right to a Ferrari while you are it or have a right to a nice young woman with big breasts and a big behind for a wife. Or make it a right for all fat women to get lipo so they feel better about themselves. The S.C. didn't mention anything religious in their conclusion why they voted that way.




Even RGB said it was a bad law and the most anti-democratic decision by the court. Her words.
Abortion is a private matter between a patient and a doctor any other descriptions of it has to ignore the fact that privacy has become a fundamental right. Physician assisted suicide is killing too, right? Since no sex is involved the new justices and religion don't care.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 04:21 PM
 
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Always? I know pro lifers that are not religious. They believe in science and when LIFE begins. I'm not religious. I stop going to church when I was 18 and my mom couldn't force me anymore and I'm with the Pro Life crowd

I'm alive and many more because my grandma who wasn't religious didn't kill my mother and she had every reason to, she was terminal ill but Grandma didn't die until she made sure she was taken care of. Those women are worth 1,000 more than the POS you see at the abortion rallies today.

But no one could explain *scientifically* yet, whence *life* came, is this correct?
 
Old 06-28-2022, 04:23 PM
 
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Of course it was religion driven to overturn.
 
Old 06-28-2022, 04:29 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Abortion is a private matter between a patient and a doctor any other descriptions of it has to ignore the fact that privacy has become a fundamental right. Physician assisted suicide is killing too, right? Since no sex is involved the new justices and religion don't care.
In the US, physician-assisted suicide is not recognized as a right on the federal level following the ruling of*Washington v. Glucksberg. Some states*have recognized the right to physician-assisted suicide through*'death with dignity' laws, others haven't and its illegal.*Abortion will be the same. Some states will allow it in most or all situations, others won't.

Note that as there is no Constitutional Right to privacy, there is consequently no Constitutional Right to physician-assisted suicide.
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