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They arent. The birth rate is steadily declining. We are near below replacement level. The abortion rate has dropped 44% since it became legal. Given the number of women of childbearing age (15-44) only 1% have unwanted pregnancies.
100% is unobtainable. A 1% is good. Even in science 5% error rate is acceptable.
They certainly are or there wouldn’t be sOOO many unwanted pregnancies. Continuing not to use birth control and/or continuing to have sex with men that won’t use birth control will continue to result in sOOO many more.
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Originally Posted by 2mares
Its not she who thinks she is the only responsible one. It is everyone else who is judging her.
She gets pregnant because her mate bought cheap condoms, or didnt wear one correctly, its her fault, her responsibility. Using the pull out method and he dosent pull out, its her fault he didnt pull out.
Paws and cries for sex, or threatens her even though she said she is ovulating, her fault.
She should use birth control also. She’s the only one that can get pregnant.
She gets pregnant because her mate bought cheap condoms, or didnt wear one correctly, its her fault, her responsibility. Using the pull out method and he dosent pull out, its her fault he didnt pull out.
Paws and cries for sex, or threatens her even though she said she is ovulating, her fault.
Again, her choice in sexual partners is on her; it’s the first step in taking responsibility of her own sexual health, not to mention mental health - if she is seriously sticking with a guy who would threaten her or ‘paw and cry’ for sex. It’s ludicrous.
They arent. The birth rate is steadily declining. We are near below replacement level. The abortion rate has dropped 44% since it became legal. Given the number of women of childbearing age (15-44) only 1% have unwanted pregnancies.
100% is unobtainable. A 1% is good. Even in science 5% error rate is acceptable.
Again with the incorrect statistics. Will you please stop?
As explained to you before, not all 64+ million women of childbearing age are fertile, having sex, or having sex with men. You need to get the correct data and adjust your numbers.
For example, 38% of Americans of childbearing age are single, 56% of them are women, and only 70% of single women are sexually active. 19% of all women are infertile, and 4% of women are lesbians.
Furthermore, even Guttmacher acknowledges that the abortion rate has been increasing since 2017.
Again, her choice in sexual partners is on her; it’s the first step in taking responsibility of her own sexual health, not to mention mental health - if she is seriously sticking with a guy who would threaten her or ‘paw and cry’ for sex. It’s ludicrous.
That poster thinks women are pitiful helpless creatures who don't have the intelligence or ability to look out for their own best interest, therefore we should let them kill their babies.
Why can you not understand that everyone else is not you?
Here is an example. I never had regular cycles. The number of days between periods was never the same. I am not unique. No amount of tracking would tell when I was fertile or not.
That was my situation as well when I stopped birth control pills…. But unless you have some knowledge as to what your signs are, of course you are going to be clueless. Sounds like you didn’t even try to track. That’s on you. “Everyone else is not you.”
LOL. There is an app for that. One that sticks a finger in your vagina to monitor your cervical mucus.
No its not a joke.
The rhythm method is not reliable. It is something that must be monitored daily, you must also have a regular cycle. Maybe you're not aware since you used it to track when to get pregnant not when not to and you are apparently were stay at home mom with 5 kids and not caring if you had 5 more. You also had fertility problems so you're really not concerned with trying to not get pregnant.
The majority of women work outside the home, at least half of the mothers also work outside the home, women also do the lions share of child rearing and domestic duties. Monitoring the Calander, taking your temp, and checking your cervical mucus to PREDICT what day you probably are not fertile so you can pencil in days you could likely have sex isnt't really something most women have time for nor most husbands want to rely on.
Why do I have to explain this to a fellow woman. If you have no intolerance to the pill, it is 99.9% effective. You pop it once a day.
Ever wonder why women had more children before the pill became legal?
Lots of assumptions here, and a lot of excuses, too. Society would be much better off if women would be willing to actually raise their children rather than sending them off to daycare and govt schools or killing them before birth.
Yes, it is. It is inconvenient timing for some, only. 17 year old females are actually biologically designed to bear children. In the vast majority of cases, there is no threat whatsoever to the mother's life.
In both of those situations, the mother's health is carefully monitored and life-threatening problems are promptly addressed.
Not to mention that the 48yo who is pregnant is a rarity and made possible most often in these modern times via IVF. They know the risks going into it.
I think the better question is why it is assumed that women are the ones who have to pay attention to birth control, prevent pregnancy when necessary, be responsible about birth control (it is men who wear condoms, after all) and get stuck with the child and all the responsibilities and expenses if the man dips after he gets her pregnant.
It’s so convenient that the men taking these rights away from women (and celebrating it) can drone on about promiscuity and responsibility and so on when we all know that very few of them practice such caution and care in their own lives. If they meet a beautiful woman on a business trip, have a night of passion, and then fly home, they can wash their hands of the consequences of their actions while the women can’t if birth control fails or the guy ghosts her with the condom. That state of affairs is neither right nor fair. As they say, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Until men have as much to lose from an accidental pregnancy as women, they are in no position to even comment on the issue unless it’s to support the women.
I guess the bolded part is what men will turn to to absolve themselves of any responsibility for the mess that is about to ensue. “Well, women are the promiscuous ones, out there having sex when they can’t afford a baby. What’s a man supposed to do? Say no when some Jezebel comes along to tempt him with sin?”
These anti-abortion laws are going to boomerang back on the states that pass them in a way that no one can predict. Abortions will not stop. It will just go underground and police departments will set up anti-abortion units to catch women who dare to end a pregnancy they cannot afford. Already, women are being refused certain kinds of pregnancy care in hospitals, clerks are refusing to sell condoms in drug stores, pharmacists refusing to sell birth control, while Republicans refuse to make birth control a right or even make concessions for rape, incest, or the life of the mother. The callousness, cruelty, and clear desire to roll back the clock to a time when men could control women’s lives couldn’t be more apparent.
It’s going to take about 20 years for the full consequences of this foolishness to become evident, but i can already hear the pundits trying to blame rising crime and child poverty on everything but these awful laws. The whole society will suffer for it.
Your scenario reflects irresponsibility on the part of both man and woman. Hopefully she has his contact info so she can track him down and do a paternity test. Again, she knew the risks going into it.
Obviously, women with low self-esteem let guys walk all over them, and abortion is not the answer in these cases. Any woman being abused, and yes, what is being described is abuse, needs to kick the guy's butt to the curb and get some counseling before letting another one into her life.
As a woman, I don't understand these women. Not having abortion available on demand is not the issue when it comes to abuse.
Both should be using birth control, unless they want a baby. I get so tired of men complaining about not wanting to pay child support, and it is my understanding that many women were being pressured to have an abortion by the men in their lives.
If a guy wants sex without any responsibilities, he should just pay for it! No child support payments in that case, and he doesn't have to take advantage of a woman with low self-esteem in order to satisfy his "needs".
Is there a difference for you between a woman who terminates a pregnancy because she conceived unintentionally and doesn't wish to remain pregnant and a woman who conceived via sexual assault and doesn't wish to remain pregnant? I ask because you appear to think that some abortions are acceptable while others are not. Can you explain why you feel they should be treated differently?
Of course there is a difference. There is a difference between voluntary and forced sex. There is a difference between normal relations and a criminal act. There is a difference between willing participant and victim. You appear to think there is no difference by reason of your question. Can you explain why you think they should be treated the same?
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