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View Poll Results: Do women need to take more responsiblity for their sexual health?
Yes 192 75.29%
No 59 23.14%
Not Sure 4 1.57%
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Old 08-03-2022, 06:26 AM
 
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I rarely go to the "Relationship" area of the forum, maybe twice a year for kicks. So, I think one of the issues here is that women need to learn the difference between a guy being interested in them for a relationship of any length, and a bootie call. The idea that having sex with a guy will keep him around, or getting pregnant will cement the relationship, is false. Unless you have discussed having children with the guy, he probably isn't going to be thrilled that you are pregnant, and there are a lot of other women out there that will give him sex, so that may entertain him for awhile, but it is not a relationship. If you want to be a bootie call, and frankly, I think most women know that is the reality but ignore it, insist on condoms, use birth control pills/injections/patches, and a spermicidal gel - think Fort Knox for sexual relations!
Exactly.

 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:29 AM
 
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Are you purposely not understanding or ? There are tons of signs to track. You can’t see any patterns at all without tracking. Don’t blame the “lack of tracking” for your own laziness and irresponsibility.
Laziness and irresponsibility are exactly WHY there are 930,000 abortions per year. 95% of unintended pregnancies are due to women voluntarily participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission (Guttmacher).
 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:30 AM
 
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It seems so incredibly basic, right? I remember this from 5th grade sex ed (which is pretty age-inappropriate, in retrospect). The schools always drill into you that abstinence is the only foolproof birth control. Just have to control your urges.
Yes, but the left incessantly complains about that, calling it "abstinence only" sex education.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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But both sexes aren’t being held to the same standard. That is my issue. Both sexes are participating in the sexual act and possibly creating a child. However, only one of them is being forced to use their body to incubate an embryo, regardless of the circumstances.
Well... be my guest... feel free to change 2 million years of human biology so that men get can pregnant and carry babies to term, too.

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In the end, it all boils down to some nonsense notion that “boys will be boys,” and women are solely responsible for any pregnancies. It’s fine for the man to abandon her and the kid because she should have known better. Some of the most convenient, backwards thinking I’ve ever heard, and I’m a man. Too many men out there want to have sex with women, only to turn around and blame women for having consensual sex.
Well, they get away with it, don't they?

Case in point... The IL General Assembly tried to pass a law that public assistance benefits for children would only be paid if the child's father was named on the birth certificate, but the Democrats voted that down. Democrats don't want men to be financially responsible for their children, so it stands to reason they don't expect them to be responsible about using birth control, either. That, like raising the kids on welfare, is the woman's responsibility according to Democrats. They're quite misogynistic.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:35 AM
 
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That's not quite how birth control works.
I am far from convinced that is the case. Women are not innocent little creatures. They can be dishonest and lying just as much as men are.

We need to start acknowledging that reality.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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Don’t recall anyone here saying that it’s not both parties responsibility to use birth control other than those that insist men should have vasectomies, and even as ridiculous as that is, it doesn’t address STD’s, but please do post who did and be specific?

Nobody said the man should abandon the woman and her kid because she should’ve known better, but please do post who did and be specific?

The fact remains that only a woman can get pregnant, and if she’s not going to use birth control and have sex with a man that won’t use birth control, then expect to get pregnant.
THIS! THIS! THIS!

WHY on earth are so many people denying basic biological FACT just because they think their "feelings" about "fairness" should somehow override SCIENCE?
 
Old 08-03-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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Lots of assumptions here, and a lot of excuses, too. Society would be much better off if women would be willing to actually raise their children rather than sending them off to daycare and govt schools or killing them before birth.
Those arent assumptions. You can look up the stats on working women/mothers. You can read interview after interview, article after article on how women do the lions share and are stretched thin.
You have no idea about what is best for society. What suits you in raising your family is not one size fits all.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 07:03 AM
 
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I was asking myself all these same questions. Abortion should hardly ever be necessary if people had any sense of responsibility.
Do you agree that there is, was, and always will be a percentage of the population that do not have any sense of responsibility. There will always be those who through genetics or fate of growing up in particular circumstances will fall into poverty, criminality, addiction, bad health through their irresponsible actions.

Again, take the number of women of childbearing age (15-44) and the number of abortions per year ~830,000 (which has decreased44%) and that results in ~1% having unwanted pregnancies. Much less than the general number of irresponsible people in the US.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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Do you agree that there is, was, and always will be a percentage of the population that do not have any sense of responsibility. There will always be those who through genetics or fate of growing up in particular circumstances will fall into poverty, criminality, addiction, bad health through their irresponsible actions.
Are any of those a valid reason to kill another human life?

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Again, take the number of women of childbearing age (15-44) and the number of abortions per year ~830,000 (which has decreased44%) and that results in ~1% having unwanted pregnancies. Much less than the general number of irresponsible people in the US.
False stats, again. Please stop. Guttmacher: 930,000 abortions. And the number of abortions has been increasing since 2017.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 07:16 AM
 
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Are any of those a valid reason to kill another human life?

False stats, again. Please stop. Guttmacher: 930,000 abortions. And the number of abortions has been increasing since 2017.
A “valid reason” is subjective. The woman having the abortion doesn’t need a reason with your approval. If a baby would interfere with her career, or education, that’s valid enough for her. Her life her values no one else’s.
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