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Maybe we could satisfy their needs by having fenced "puppy and duckling farms" on BLM land or national parks. Give the ladies spiked clubs and let them have at it. There should be a strict limit of two puppies or ducklings per woman per visit, though.
True, it wouldn't be like the "real thing." But it might just satisfy the urge, at least for a time.
It's a slippery slope. If they allow it on federal land, they would have to redo the military healthcare to support abortion. Also what happens on the military installation falls under the garrison commander. If a military installation goes on lockdown, no one gets in, no one gets out even if you have an appointment somewhere.
If they were to make it legal on federal land, anyone going into a military installation is subject to their vehicles being searched coming onto or off of said installation tool. Then people will cry that they are being targeted and that the military is horrible. Anything that the kids and I would do on the base, if it raised eyebrows or we did something against the rules, my husband was held accountable for it. Truthfully, some military installations won't let anyone on it unless they are being sponsored by someone or they have official business that is contracted out by those within the military world. Some bases have refused movers that were trying to get on to pack and load the houses. This is why I think they are idiots.
You are talking military bases. That is a whole different thing. That is like saying do the abortions at federal prisons. Of course security issues would make that difficult or impossible.
Some have said national parks. That would avoid the VA issues. But most national parks are far from most people. There are national monuments, federal office buildings. BLM land. If one had a list or map of every single land controlled by the feds its a pretty extensive list in every state.
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Apparently AOC and Liz Warren have a plan to turn national parks into drive through abortion clinics. So could that not also be done on any federal property anywhere in any state? What about on Native American reservations? Foreign embassies?
Maybe we could satisfy their needs by having fenced "puppy and duckling farms" on BLM land or national parks. Give the ladies spiked clubs and let them have at it. There should be a strict limit of two puppies or ducklings per woman per visit, though.
True, it wouldn't be like the "real thing." But it might just satisfy the urge, at least for a time.
Well your scenario is nothing like the "real thing". Such an odd comparison.
Have you ever had a girlfriend/wife? Weird that you would paint women in that light.
Well your scenario is nothing like the "real thing". Such an odd comparison.
Well, I know it's not like the real thing. I said that. It's like Tylenol vs heroin. But it could be just enough of a fix to get them by. At least until they can save enough money to go to a state where the real deal is legal.
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Have you ever had a girlfriend/wife?
Of course. But none senseless enough to allow me to get them pregnant if they didn't want to get pregnant.
Ironically the Supreme Court just made a ruling on this very precedent just yesterday after I posted this. SCOTUS ruled the that states are allowed to prosecute non-Indians for crimes even while on reservations, while Indians may be exempt. So this means that a provider of abortions on a reservation under a tribe that legalizes abortion will be permitted to perform the procedure ONLY on fellow members of the tribe and on tribal lands . Those seeking abortion who aren’t Indian tribal members can be prosecuted by the state and same for any non-Indian doctors.
This means Indians are protected on their native lands and the rest are not able to use any loopholes besides freedom to play in a casino on a reservation which I believe is protected either because 1) The state law allows reservations legal gambling even aside from the issue of jurisdiction and/or 2) restrictions on gambling in the US usually involve who can organize the gambling rather than what individual players do. The issue is can your money be kept from you over a gaming when it’s not a stock commodity or currency trade or a state-run lottery. For this reason most states that don’t allow opening a casino do not prosecute online gambling when the casino is domiciled offshore.
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If a state bans abortion can they still happen on federal or tribal land in that state?
If a state bans illegal narcotics can they still happen on federal or tribal land in that state?
If a state bans prostitution can they still happen on federal or tribal land in that state?
If a state bans gambling can they still happen on federal or tribal land in that state?
I think the answer to all of these would get the same answer, especially under this pro-life Supreme Court, that would be "NO".
The answer is Yes - the fed gov passes a law allowing those above. State laws do not apply to federal lands:
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ArtIV.S3.C2.1.1
"The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules
and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States"
In the above the term "United States" means the fed gov.
If a state bans abortion can they still happen on federal or tribal land in that state?
I find that question intriguing. It is very likely that the State government would have no say what happens on tribal land.
I can see it now: Casino hotel/Abortion clinic. "Gamble with your money, NOT your body" could be their slogan.
I am interested in this scenario as well. Native Americans, like all minorities, do tend to vote overwhelming Democrat, but they are about a 60/40 split compared to something like african americans, who vote about 80/20.
FYI whites are the only race that vote majority Republican.
Ironically the Supreme Court just made a ruling on this very precedent just yesterday after I posted this. SCOTUS ruled the that states are allowed to prosecute non-Indians for crimes even while on reservations, while Indians may be exempt. So this means that a provider of abortions on a reservation under a tribe that legalizes abortion will be permitted to perform the procedure ONLY on fellow members of the tribe and on tribal lands . Those seeking abortion who aren’t Indian tribal members can be prosecuted by the state
Interesting reference.
I would not be so quick to draw the same parallel as a legal basis.
I do think there is a valid argument for using federal lands.
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