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Old 07-06-2022, 09:03 AM
 
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How would having less Dems in office mean less mass shootings?

Explain to me like I’m 5. Do Republicans have technology that predicts people’s actions before they do it?
Your demand is a paradox. It would require those of whom you are requesting to explain as though you were aged five to have the intelligence quotient of at least five years or older.

Do not hold your breath.
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Old 07-06-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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The majority of these shootings are by liberal leaning assailants. They’re just an angry screwy lot I guess. Before I get a but Trump, or “source?”, look it up. I’m tired of doing everyone else’s homework. Yeah there has been shootings by conservatives, but Trump, but the majority, meaning more than the other, have been by liberals.
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Old 07-06-2022, 01:45 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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I think things would be a lot different now if AR-15 type rifles were never sold to the general public, but remained in the military. It's too late now since so many have been sold. Granted, maybe 1 in several thousand sold have been used in mass shootings, but it doesn't take many. A person can't use what they don't have. Given that it's too late to ban them, at least ban sales of high capacity magazines.

Keep in mind that I tend to be conservative, but this sort of thing has gotten out of hand.
When no AR-15's are available, they simply use crock pots or vehicles. Still kills and maims a lot of people.
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Old 07-06-2022, 02:11 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Yes, but not the senate. You need both to get bills passed.
Democrats control the Senate too.
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Old 07-06-2022, 02:21 PM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Fun facts.

0% of mass shootings are caused by people who obey the law.

100% of mass shootings are caused by people who do not obey the law.
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Old 07-06-2022, 02:46 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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There have always been mass shootings. Consider a few of the worst such as the San Ysidro McDonald's massacre in 1984, and Killeen, Texas, Luby's Restaurant shooting in 1991. What we are seeing today is the rise of copy cat shooters that have been exacerbated by the Internet and enabled by increased access to semi-automatic weapons.
"Increased access to semi automatic weapons?" The copy cat thing I can agree with but there has been no increase in access to semi autos. If anything that access has actually decreased. With all the laws and regulations so many places (mainly urban center municipalities that control their state legislatures thus expanding those policies to the state level) it's far harder to legally purchase any firearm semi auto o otherwise than is was after WW2.

I use WW2 as a time frame but all the way up through the mid 60s one could order a surplus M1 Garand by mail. Plus he civilian market was flooded with those latter rifles for pennies on the dollar. I remember well seeing Garands for sale in Woolworths for less than $100.00. Quite often far less.

Semi autos are far from being new technology. The AR has been available for civilian purchase since the later 60s along with the MIA (military designation M14 which was select fire) M1 Garand and a slew of others. Patrick Purdey started this mass shooting of innocents with a semi auto AK in the 80s yes. For years the boogey man was the AK only turning to the AR within the last 20 years or so. Luby's was done with a handgun (a Glock if memory serves). The San Ysidro shooter used 3 firearrms. A Browning Hi Power 9mm a 12 ga pump shotgun and a semi auto Uzi.

All of CAs laws then now and to come have done nothing to deter mass shooting incidents. Laws like the banning of semi autos like the AR. Lot of good that did. Very few legal owners turned them in and exactly zero criminals. Yeah yeah the "neighboring states with lax laws" thing.Well, a CA resident or resident of any other state cannot bee bop across he border and buy a gun and walk out of the store with it. They can buy one but it has to be shipped to a licensed dealer in their home state comply with all that states laws and only then can they take possession.

If "easy access" to semi autos is a factor I have to wonder why never once has an M1 Garand been used in a mass shooting being as the country was flooded with them. Semi autos have nothing to do with anything. But the copycat thing does on that I agree. Using an AR has the "coolness" factor in the crime that a gallon of gas and a Bic lighter doesn't add. These nut balls want that factor. Oneupsmanship from the ones before them. And the shooter not the gun or type of gun used is the problem.
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Old 07-06-2022, 03:54 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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"Increased access to semi automatic weapons?" The copy cat thing I can agree with but there has been no increase in access to semi autos. If anything that access has actually decreased. With all the laws and regulations so many places (mainly urban center municipalities that control their state legislatures thus expanding those policies to the state level) it's far harder to legally purchase any firearm semi auto o otherwise than is was after WW2.

I use WW2 as a time frame but all the way up through the mid 60s one could order a surplus M1 Garand by mail. Plus he civilian market was flooded with those latter rifles for pennies on the dollar. I remember well seeing Garands for sale in Woolworths for less than $100.00. Quite often far less.

Semi autos are far from being new technology. The AR has been available for civilian purchase since the later 60s along with the MIA (military designation M14 which was select fire) M1 Garand and a slew of others. Patrick Purdey started this mass shooting of innocents with a semi auto AK in the 80s yes. For years the boogey man was the AK only turning to the AR within the last 20 years or so. Luby's was done with a handgun (a Glock if memory serves). The San Ysidro shooter used 3 firearrms. A Browning Hi Power 9mm a 12 ga pump shotgun and a semi auto Uzi.

All of CAs laws then now and to come have done nothing to deter mass shooting incidents. Laws like the banning of semi autos like the AR. Lot of good that did. Very few legal owners turned them in and exactly zero criminals. Yeah yeah the "neighboring states with lax laws" thing.Well, a CA resident or resident of any other state cannot bee bop across he border and buy a gun and walk out of the store with it. They can buy one but it has to be shipped to a licensed dealer in their home state comply with all that states laws and only then can they take possession.

If "easy access" to semi autos is a factor I have to wonder why never once has an M1 Garand been used in a mass shooting being as the country was flooded with them. Semi autos have nothing to do with anything. But the copycat thing does on that I agree. Using an AR has the "coolness" factor in the crime that a gallon of gas and a Bic lighter doesn't add. These nut balls want that factor. Oneupsmanship from the ones before them. And the shooter not the gun or type of gun used is the problem.
The Ar-15 is part of the copy cat thing. These guys who decide they are going to attack a school, church, supermarket, synagogue, parade, etc. now have a fetish with the AR-15. The first AR-15 wasn't used in a mass shooting until 2007. Look at all the major mass shootings since then, there has been an increasing trend to use an AR-15. There are also eight million AR-15s and its variations in circulation. How many M1 Garands do you think were ever in circulation?

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Old 07-07-2022, 10:01 AM
 
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Yes, but not the senate. You need both to get bills passed.
"but not the senate. You need both to get bills passed.

You need to keep up.

"Who now controls the Senate? Chuck Schumer became majority leader following the swearing in of Democratic Senators Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock of Georgia and Alex Padilla of California by Kamala Harris on January 20, 2021."

"There is now a 50-50 split in the Senate which means the new Vice President will be able to break any possible ties as she will have the casting vote.
The Vice President also serves as president of the Senate. Which makes it 51 dems to to repubs.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1775550...-biden-harris/
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Old 07-07-2022, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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We've raised a generation of people who don't respect life, who have been coddled and told they are constant victims, and who have been told that our country is evil and racist.

We've diminished the value of "family" and elevated the concept of selfishness.

We've diminished the idea of respect for our institutions and for things that are bigger than one's self.

People have grown up to become narcissists by constant social media. There is also a copycat element to it.

Those are the biggies.

Yes.

It's not just "mental health".

Of course, one could argue that what we've let society devolve into is sort of a mental sickness.

Or sickness of the soul.
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Old 07-07-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Because people aren’t interested in what happens in inner cities. It doesn’t affect them. A story like Highland Park is a huge story because most people can relate that to their own lives. They cover shootings in inner cities, especially in the city that it happens in, but the story dies quickly because there’s no interest in it by the public.
Just heard about this. Has anybody heard about it from the alphabet "News" stations?

"Armed woman kills man who fired rifle into crowd at West Virginia birthday party"

"CHARLESTON, W.Va. — A woman in West Virginia fatally shot a man who began firing an AR-15-style rifle into a crowd of people that had gathered for a party, authorities said.
Dennis Butler, 37, was killed Wednesday night after he pulled out the rifle and began shooting at dozens of people attending the birthday-graduation party outside an apartment complex in Charleston, police said in a statement.
The woman, who was attending the party, drew a pistol and fired, killing Butler, the statement said. No one at the party was injured."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ty/9975381002/

Note usa today did NOT mention ANYTHING about the shooter.

"UPDATE: This is 37-year-old Dennis Butler, the man that opened fire at a graduation party last night. He has an extensive criminal record that includes charges of DUI, domestic battery, among others"

"While the media did cover the story, it didn’t get much attention because it does not fit the leftist narrative. ‘Legal gun owner shoots and kills would-be black mass shooter’ is not the type of headline they prefer. Therefore, it didn’t get 24/7 coverage from the leftist infotainment sector nor the usual reams of op-eds and propaganda appearances intended to spark widespread outrage, rioting, burning, looting, and murder."


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