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Originally Posted by NeutralZone
But he didn’t have a clear and decisive victory. Trump lost. For the good of the country he needs to stop this nonsense and spend his retirement playing golf. I say this not as a Trump hater but as a Trump voter.
It is true that in some states election laws and procedures were changed and bent because of the pandemic. But there has been no proof whatsoever that legitimate ballots for Trump were not counted or that fake ballots for Biden were counted. Trump was an unpopular, divisive president who in 2020 faced with the pandemic and social unrest, did not rise to the occasion at all. He failed to provide the leadership necessary during that time. He trailed in all the polls. It wasn’t a shock that he lost.
Why Hillary still goes on about the election was stolen from her due to Russian interference. What's good for the goose ya know.
The election was 100% rigged, and I applaud Trump for never accepting it and continuing to fight against these incredibly vile, incredibly evil people on the left, and some on the right, too.
People seem to forget that NO serious poll predicted a victory for him. Low-information voters just had a "feeling" he would win because of the endless rallies, boat parades and other meaningless cheerleading that was on their news feeds constantly. Compared to other recent elections, it wasn't even that close. Biden won by twice the popular vote margin that Clinton got in 2016.
Those polls mostly were proved wrong though. Biden didn’t trail in a single poll in late 2019 or early 2020 which made zero sense. Based on where we were economically November 2019 to February 2020 there’s no chance Trump loses an election so I was continually laughing off those polls. Biden also never trailed in a single Florida or Iowa poll but lost the states by 3 and 9 points respectively. I’m not sure if they purposely rig polls now or the methodology no longer works because even now polls showing Dems winning this November we know have to be wrong
Trump is a Jilted President. He went to bed on election night with a nice lead over Sleepy Joe and he woke up to find himself behind in the states that mattered with stories coming out of scandal, fraud, deceit and questionable ballot counting practices. The Dems spent 4 years with their Russian Collusion Investigation that turned out to be one big ongoing Lie used to discredit and cast doubt on everything Trump did as President were all to quick to tell us to sit down, shut up and accept the results of the 2020 election. Their media did not help the issue.
Of course Trump is not happy with what happened to him, would you be?
Hillary was none to happy in Jan 2017 but she didn't call around to states to decertify elections two years later. But keep trying to make believe this is rational behavior, all those stories of a "massive scandal". LOL
Why Hillary still goes on about the election was stolen from her due to Russian interference. What's good for the goose ya know.
What does Hillary have to do with Trump urging officials to commit crimes by fraudulently manipulating the vote count 20 months after the election? You seem to be fixated on Hillary when you should be paying closer attention to Trump's descent into madness. I have a feeling that Rudy is advising him again. Maybe this is an attempt to show him mentally incompetent and not responsible for his criminal behavior. He would see that as a win.
If Trump runs again he will spend the whole election cycle whining about 2020 instead of focusing on 2024. People don't like sore losers and whiners which is what he is. Someone get him his binky and bottle.
HRC lost but she wasn't calling officials to decertify the election or to manipulate the vote count that is pure criminal anyone else would be charged and tossed in jail for such crimes.
Don't get me wrong she was a sore loser but Trump takes the cake.
But he didn’t have a clear and decisive victory. Trump lost. For the good of the country he needs to stop this nonsense and spend his retirement playing golf. I say this not as a Trump hater but as a Trump voter.
It is true that in some states election laws and procedures were changed and bent because of the pandemic. But there has been no proof whatsoever that legitimate ballots for Trump were not counted or that fake ballots for Biden were counted. Trump was an unpopular, divisive president who in 2020 faced with the pandemic and social unrest, did not rise to the occasion at all. He failed to provide the leadership necessary during that time. He trailed in all the polls. It wasn’t a shock that he lost.
Two time Trump voter here. I feel the same. He should sell off everything and find a nice Caribbean island to spend the rest of his life on, kicking it on a beach, having Melania fetching Diet Cokes for him.
Elections worked pretty well up through 2018. It was all the wholesale "OMG COVID!!!!!" changes that stripped accountability and made voting as easy as checking a box and writing your name from your couch that won Biden the election.
If anyone believes that what - 12MM? more votes were cast for Biden in 2020 than in 2008 for Obama, a record high % turnout because they loved Biden or even cause they hated Trump, you're crazy.
Heck, I'm assuming with Trump's 9MM (more than a 10% jump) leap in votes that there was R cheating going on too.
It's perfectly reasonable to think that Biden got that many more than Obama. You know a simple explanation that goes a long way in proving it plausible? Population growth and, in turn, registered voter growth.
# of registered voters in 2008: 146.31 million
# in 2020 : 168.31 million
There have been higher percents of turnouts in the past. But for this one, more people loathed Trump, a very divisive candidate, than loved him, and he lost.
It doesn't matter how many people show up at his rallies, for example. It can seem like a lot, but statistically insignificant in reality. For example, up to 50,000 people went to a Trump rally in Alabama in 2021. Secret Service estimated 45k, but let's go with the 50k. There were 3,585,923 registered voters in 2021.
Assuming it's somehow 100% Alabama registered voters, that's only 1.4% of the voters and not a good indication of how people will vote or feel about Trump. Same with low attendance...statistically insignificant to gauge candidate popularity. Many voters have no interest in any rallies, including me.
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