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Old 07-22-2022, 12:26 PM
 
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And the corporations can't just turn on a dime and follow whatever political climate this country has. They have to follow what the political climate of the planet is doing. And that, is going green. Right, wrong, or indifferent, there is no denying that. They don't just sell vehicles here...it's a global market.

Yeah, and things aren't moving in the globalists' direction.


Look at Europe. They just designated natural glass as climate friendly. They're also going big on nuclear which is now far safer than it was in the bad old days. I was a skeptic, but no. Hydro power may be big as well.


There's a massive backlash going on, and that is only the beginning.


They played their hand too soon, and this entire market sector - which never truly got off the ground to begin with - is going to come crashing down.


And the US will be leading the way.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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Yeah, and things aren't moving in the globalists' direction.


Look at Europe. They just designated natural glass as climate friendly. They're also going big on nuclear which is now far safer than it was in the bad old days. I was a skeptic, but no. Hydro power may be big as well.


There's a massive backlash going on, and that is only the beginning.


They played their hand too soon,
and this entire market sector - which never truly got off the ground to begin with - is going to come crashing down.


And the US will be leading the way.
I won't argue this.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Ford is on the cutting edge of the next recession. Poor people need to save up to buy a $50K EV vehicle.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:51 PM
 
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To make matters worse a serious ev commitment by any of the automakers might not have they outcome they desire. I can't believe manufacturers in particular don't understand or are ignoring the logistics including lithium mining. And since it's such a different product yes employees will be laid off, plants closed and vendors that supply the gas vehicles will be affected as well.

EVs should be considered an option for a slower integration not transition into the auto market.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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I won't argue this.

Also, how are they going to have a global market when the two most populous nations on Earth (China and India), are both leaning into their acceleration to coal power? Developing nations are not going to tell their emerging middle classes to go screw.


And now even Germany is going back to coal power because of the gas shortage imposed by Russia.


This electric car thing ain't happening any time soon, doesn't matter what BS the globalists try to foist on us.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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And Democrats wonder why Americans now decidedly hate them.


It's always America last with these people. Ideology over country.



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spence...-n2610657?2210


This Left Wing lunacy is completely hurting the average American, and this is only one front of their War on everything pro-Freedom and prosperity.


Never bought a Ford, and I certainly won't be in the market for one any time soon.
Since conservatives are supposed to be strongly opposed to the ideology of switching to EV, then please explain why among the most conservative of states are embracing it? Panasonic took advantage of the over $800 billion incentive by Kansas to build a huge battery plant there. Oklahoma gave $400 million to Canoo to start its electrical vehicle production there. Surely, Texas was thrilled to get the new Tesla pickup truck plant. Oklahoma had been wanting it. Total employees at those three companies are going to make up for losses at Ford. This is what pro-prosperity is going to be about in the future for those conservative states. So RhodyRepub, you need to wake up and realize your point doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:56 PM
 
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So RhodyRepub, you need to wake up and realize your point doesn't make a lick of sense.

No one is denying that when government subsidizes an industry, it compels certain behaviors from manufacturers.


But that isn't stepping back and seeing the bigger picture.


The gravy train ain't gonna last, in fact, it's already beginning to come to a screeching halt around the World. And it will happen here.



China and India ain't going electric. Europe is beginning a reversion to fossil fuels.


Wake up and realize.
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Old 07-22-2022, 12:57 PM
 
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And Democrats wonder why Americans now decidedly hate them.



It's always America last with these people. Ideology over country.







https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spence...-n2610657?2210


This Left Wing lunacy is completely hurting the average American, and this is only one front of their War on everything pro-Freedom and prosperity.


Never bought a Ford, and I certainly won't be in the market for one any time soon.
Henry Ford wouldn't have been to happy about this.
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Old 07-22-2022, 01:03 PM
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Think what you want. And yes, those 18k layoffs, and the ones GM did, where all about the this transition. And yes, being in the global market and wanting to be successful in it, is going to cost. I've been in the automotive development business for over 30 years, how long have you been involved ?
GM has been a bad example of a business ever since they went on a private jet to ask for bail out assistance from the Federal Government. My point on the lay-offs is why no outrage when Ford eliminated 20k positions in 2018? Or was it acceptable with the last administrations?

Glad you work in the industry then you should know better than anyone that the bottom line is what matters to the American Big 3. Ford has made a choice what direction they are going to take the company and they will grow again just like they did when seatbelts were made mandatory and when EPA MPG standards were implemented and raised multiple times. The demise of the American Automobile industry has been foretold too many times and they're still here.

But the OP as always acts like this has only just happened, that the events of the last year and a half have brought all this change and everything is the administrations fault and that Republicans never let this happen. Yeah then how do they explain all the jobs losses during their turn of being in the White House?
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Old 07-22-2022, 01:08 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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We're going down the wrong road with this EV thing. And you know when it will become evident? AFTER the damages is done and AFTER it cause an environmental catastrophe and AFTER a whole lot of people go through some really desperate times.
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