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Old 08-15-2022, 02:07 PM
 
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Remember the 'Son of Sam' law in NY where defendants had to turn over their ill-gotten profits from the notoriety they gained from their crimes? It seems other jurisdictions may need to impose similar sanctions for the Jan. 6 defendants. Some of those charged are doing quite nicely.

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In one case, federal authorities have seized tens of thousands of dollars from a defendant who sold his footage from Jan. 6. In another case, a Florida man's plea deal allows the U.S. government to collect profits from any book he gets published over the next five years. And prosecutors want a Maine man who raised more than $20,000 from supporters to surrender some of the money because a taxpayer-funded public defender is representing him.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-ca...-jan-6-crimes/

An anti-vaccine doctor raised $430,000 for defense costs for a misdemeanor (She got two months in jail.) even though she pleaded guilty. The judge called this 'unseemly' because they used the riot to raise money and pay the doctors salary. The prosecution did not believe it cost anywhere near $430,000 to defend a misdemeanor.

Some crowdfunding efforts are paying defendants' mortgages and other expenses. No wonder prosecutors are seeking heavy fines.
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Old 08-15-2022, 03:10 PM
 
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Fines are regulated by the courts. Not by a defense team or a prosecutor.
There are set values based on level of crime, multiple crimes, repeat crimes, and damage caused. One can ask the courts. Ultimately the judge follows the guidelines set thru to the legislation or penal book.

If I recall there was legislation where a ' found guilty' of a crime, the prisoner can be denied rights to publish,record,interview, profit in any means of the crime.
I think John Wayne Gacy could only profit off his art. Not any of his heinous acts. Though his art was pretty heinous as it looked like a first grade level.

If folks are ' winning!!' off their criminal deeds. . Then we have turned a corner in ' crimes pay'.
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Old 08-15-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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The guy they seized the money from was armed and on video destroying the Capitol. He ran a website called InsurgenceUSA yet miraculously he is free on his own recognizance.
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Old 08-15-2022, 06:41 PM
 
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The doctor raised $430,000 as defense costs to plead guilty to a misdemeanor?

As they said in the seventies: "Don't Buy Books by Crooks".
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Crowdfunding is 100% voluntary, direct donations. The people donating can see how much the campaign has raised and decide for themselves if they want to contribute. Taking that money isn't a punishment for the recipient, it's a punishment for the people donating. The recipient isn't out anything - the donors are.

Why is it always the people screaming about how we're "losing our democracy" who do the most damage to it?
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It's become a business go on social media and throw a political tantrum direct people to a website where they can give money.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:25 PM
 
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It's become a business go on social media and throw a political tantrum direct people to a website where they can give money.
Remember to play the victim and blame someone else!
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:52 PM
 
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Remember to play the victim and blame someone else!
Don't you find it interesting that the man who was armed at the Capitol, inciting others and on video causing destruction to the Capitol is free at home on his own recognizance?
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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Its going!

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Federal authorities seized more than $62,000 from a bank account belonging to riot defendant John Earle Sullivan, a Utah man who earned more than $90,000 from selling his Jan. 6 video footage to at least six companies. Sullivan’s lawyer argued authorities had no right to seize the money. Richard “Bigo” Barnett, an Arkansas man photographed propping his feet up on a desk in the office of Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, has charged donors $100 for photos of him with his feet on a desk while under house arrest. Defense lawyer Joseph McBride said prosecutors have “zero grounds” to prevent Barnett from raising money for his defense before a December trial date.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...ge/ar-AA10Hqmc
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Old 08-16-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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Going where? Isn’t that the same AP article?
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