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Old 09-15-2022, 08:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Simply put - There are a lot of people who are opposed to taxing billionaires because they might be one some day, and they vote accordingly.

Women see a 14-year old required by law to carry a baby that was created as the result of incest, rape, or a simple mistake to term and raise it, and they can envision themselves or their children or their friends in exactly that position. They have no intentions of allowing the law to turn them into chattel property and incubators for the state. They will vote accordingly, and so will the men who care for them, and they will encourage everyone they know to vote before their rights completely vanish.

The economy is a secondary issue to basic human rights for women, and a distant second at that. It is common knowledge that a forced birth is not going to improve any one’s financial position.
This law has exceptions beyond 15 week for rape and incest and medical issues.

 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I think you need to read the polls again.
Again, let me remind you - Kansas exists.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:11 AM
 
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From your lips to God’s ears. And when they take the Senate may one of their first acts be to incorporate a woman’s right to private autonomous healthcare decisions into law, whatever their choices are.
Maybe people would believe they care about women’s autonomous healthcare decisions if they hadn’t pushed vaccine mandates and if they actually recognized that women are adult human females not just a feeling or a vibe.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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But birth defects are not, and trisomy 13 and most other severe fetal anomalies cannot be definitively diagnosed until later in pregnancy. A twenty-week ultrasound is the diagnostic gold standard. What do we do for those women?
Medical exceptions would be allowed beyond 15 weeks.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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This law has exceptions beyond 15 week for rape and incest and medical issues.
Senator Graham's bill makes allowances for maternal health not fetal health.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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You might want to reread my post. I said medically necessary.
Abortion on demand equals no restrictions.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Simply put - There are a lot of people who are opposed to taxing billionaires because they might be one some day, and they vote accordingly.

Women see a 14-year old required by law to carry a baby that was created as the result of incest, rape, or a simple mistake to term and raise it, and they can envision themselves or their children or their friends in exactly that position. They have no intentions of allowing the law to turn them into chattel property and incubators for the state. They will vote accordingly, and so will the men who care for them, and they will encourage everyone they know to vote before their rights completely vanish.

The economy is a secondary issue to basic human rights for women, and a distant second at that. It is common knowledge that a forced birth is not going to improve any one’s financial position.
Show me the polling that says the number one issue across the board is abortion.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Maybe people would believe they care about women’s autonomous healthcare decisions if they hadn’t pushed vaccine mandates and if they actually recognized that women are adult human females not just a feeling or a vibe.
I’m not sure from your post exactly what point you’re trying to make.

Bottom line is that no one, period, should have any say in a woman’s right to make her own healthcare decisions, and that includes terminating an unwanted pregnancy. As soon as legislation removes any part of her autonomy she is relegated to the status of chattel property to be treated according to her owner’s whims like livestock. I do not know any women who are not fully capable of managing their own affairs without anyone else’s input. Do you?
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:22 AM
 
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He should lose his license to practice medicine, possible jail time.

His actions killed someone.

What do you think should happen when a doctor's mistake KILLS someone?
People die all the time due to botched medical treatment. That is why they have malpractice insurance. It should be a civil situation not a criminal one. Unless it can be proven the doctor did this on purpose. Otherwise many procedures will not be performed due to the possibility of going to prison. It would be a total disaster.

Just yesterday Ken Starr who investigated Bill Clinton back in the day died from complications to surgery he had done. Should that doctor lose his license and or go to prison?

I see what you are doing. You are trying to put criminal penalties on abortions to scare doctors away from performing them. Its like the left who want to make gun makers be responsible when someone is killed due to the use of one of their guns. At least the left and right use the same tactics.
 
Old 09-15-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: sumter
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