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Old 09-19-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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Again, are pain meds used for the sole purpose of intentionally killing patients?
  • Yes, pain meds are used for the sole purpose of intentionally killing patients.
  • No, pain meds cannot be used for the sole purpose of intentionally killing patients.
You want a simple question? There you go.
I've already told you yes.

 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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My family and friends call the nurses who administer these drugs angels of mercy.

No murder charges being filed anywhere I see around the multiple hospitals in multiple cities where this happens.
Then they're the Angels of Death.

Because end of life/hospice pain management is never supposed to be given in a dosage high enough to hasten death.

You are very mistaken.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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I've already told you yes.
Then you're talking about assisted suicide.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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My family and friends call the nurses who administer these drugs angels of mercy.

No murder charges being filed anywhere I see around the multiple hospitals in multiple cities where this happens.
This was how my father passed. He had no chance of recovery. We had a cryptic discussion with his medical team and were in the room as it happened. He had a peaceful passing because of it. But of course, nothing was implicitly stated because it couldn't be.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:45 AM
 
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Are the pain meds used exclusively to intentionally kill the person?

Abortion has 1 purpose: To kill.
You know very well that the issue in question is far more complicated than what you are trying to make it. Your attempts to simplify this only show your complete inflexibility and lack of understanding and compassion for all of the parties involved in an abortion decision. It is fine to be pro-life. I get it….it is not unreasonable to see how people can find themselves on that side of the issue. Given the complexities of life and the infinite number of individual circumstances associated with reproductive issues, people can come to the very reasonable conclusion that these matters should be left up to the individuals involved. Making statements like “abortion has 1 purpose: to kill” is a blatant attempt to demonize those you disagree with and put yourself on some sort of morally superior pedestal. It is clear to everyone here….you don’t belong up there.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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You know very well that the issue in question is far more complicated than what you are trying to make it. Your attempts to simplify this only show your complete inflexibility and lack of understanding and compassion for all of the parties involved in an abortion decision. It is fine to be pro-life. I get it….it is not unreasonable to see how people can find themselves on that side of the issue. Given the complexities of life and the infinite number of individual circumstances associated with reproductive issues, people can come to the very reasonable conclusion that these matters should be left up to the individuals involved. Making statements like “abortion has 1 purpose: to kill” is a blatant attempt to demonize those you disagree with and put yourself on some sort of morally superior pedestal. It is clear to everyone here….you don’t belong up there.
I wanted to rep you for this but apparently I've given you too many already. But this is spot on.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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You know very well that the issue in question is far more complicated than what you are trying to make it. Your attempts to simplify this only show your complete inflexibility and lack of understanding and compassion for all of the parties involved in an abortion decision. It is fine to be pro-life. I get it….it is not unreasonable to see how people can find themselves on that side of the issue. Given the complexities of life and the infinite number of individual circumstances associated with reproductive issues, people can come to the very reasonable conclusion that these matters should be left up to the individuals involved. Making statements like “abortion has 1 purpose: to kill” is a blatant attempt to demonize those you disagree with and put yourself on some sort of morally superior pedestal. It is clear to everyone here….you don’t belong up there.
Abortion has 1 purpose and only 1 purpose: to kill. That's it. That's all an abortion does.

That is not a moral or subjective statement. It is not euphemistic or unclear. It's not a pedestal in any way, shape or form.

That statement is 100% accurate.

It's a fact.

Anyone who denies the absolute and simple TRUTH of that statement? Doesn't know what an abortion is. And if it makes anyone feel demonized for supporting abortion ... they should think about why.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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This was how my father passed. He had no chance of recovery. We had a cryptic discussion with his medical team and were in the room as it happened. He had a peaceful passing because of it. But of course, nothing was implicitly stated because it couldn't be.
Exactly. Pretty common from my own personal experience as well as being in the waiting room to support other families making the same decision and hearing about stories from friends/family after it happens.

All it takes is the doc to write a prescription for the morphine to be delivered as needed and a nurse willing to administer it.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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Abortion has 1 purpose and only 1 purpose: to kill. That's it. That's all an abortion does.

That is not a moral or subjective statement. It is not euphemistic or unclear. It's not a pedestal in any way, shape or form.

That statement is 100% accurate.

It's a fact.

Anyone who denies the absolute and simple TRUTH of that statement? Doesn't know what an abortion is. And if it makes anyone feel demonized for supporting abortion ... they should think about why.
It we all only had your moral sensibilities, oh what a wonderful world it would be.
 
Old 09-19-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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Then you're talking about assisted suicide.
It wasn't legally assisted suicide where I have seen it happen. Although, that would certainly qualify as another example of a time when medical care is delivered solely to kill someone.
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