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Old 09-25-2022, 10:08 AM
 
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Before I retired we occasionally unknowingly hired workers doing exactly that, and we let them go if we found out. One of them from Honduras was the best CNC burner operator I ever had, and it cost us dearly to terminate him. Those are not the ones I am talking about. There are a lot of businesses who don't ask questions, and many of them pay under the table. That includes a lot, but by no means all, of the workers we see here in SC working for roofing and landscaping outfits, and the abattoirs and meat packing plants in the area.

What is also true, however, is that the ones with fake SS#s had income taxes and SS deducted from their paychecks, which ended up in the general fund, and spent their earnings locally which supported a strong economy. It's not all a one way street.
There is no excuse for violating our labor and immigration laws no matter how you want to spin it. Using a fake or stolen SS# is committing felony ID theft and it matters not how hard they seem to work either. It IS a one way street! Using someone else's SS # can put the real owner in a world of hurt but it's ok because SS taxes are being put into the fund? Illegals do not support a strong economy when they steal jobs, taxes and resources from Americans. Their social costs are over $100 billion a year and they do send billions out of our country not spent in our economy.
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Including a certain former president.
If you are referring to Trump there is no proof that he knowingly had any illegals working for him. Rich businessmen do not hire manual laborers themselves. The ones discovered had used fake or stolen documents to gain employment on his golf course. They were promptly fired and Trump now uses e-verify on all of his properties. Try again!
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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A couple of things - that article is ten years old, from a minor TV station in Indianapolis. None of the links in it are still functional, so there is no way to investigate the back story.

Do you have a link to any data that is more current and searchable? I'm not saying it's true or false, simply that a single source is always suspect without examination.
https://cis.org/Camarota/Illegal-Imm...ore-Previously

Dated November, 2021.
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:21 AM
 
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You’re kidding yourself if you think Republicans as a whole support e-verify. They have opposed implementation many times. Why? Because their lobbyists and constituents employ oodles of illegal immigrants.
Some do but most do not oppose e-verify.

https://amac.us/dems-block-gop-bills...al-immigrants/

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/sen-...y-senate-floor

Now post some links proving otherwise. It's on you now.

If you think that it's only Republicans that hire illegal aliens then you're not dealing in reality.
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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This explains a lot of it, and mentions a few other issues. Short clip, only about 2 minutes. Please watch it and post your thoughts.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...4IsrjxBIA&s=19
They discuss this topic in this video. Basically, the plan is to allow so many people in from other countries that borders become irrelevant, then they can say "well, it's too late now." Until we reach that point, they will weakly feign concern about the borders. It's an important step towards globlism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSs3sTIi0Q
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Problem would have been cleaned up and border sealed a long time ago if both parties didn't get a lot of benefit from it. It's one reason that both parties hated Donald Trump and wouldn't work with him.
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:51 AM
 
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Be prepared for the costs of California produce to go through the roof! You realize that area grows about 60% of America's vegetables?
I prefer not to be held hostage by the price of tomatos.
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Old 09-25-2022, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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The time is coming where immigrants are going to become more and more scarce, as the low fertility rate sweeps the world, with exceptions from sub-Sahara Africa. We'll be fighting over them some day.

Both Republican and Democratic business owners want cheap labor via immigration, that's a no-brainer.

Low fertility rate, worldwide, invites immigration. Just look to Europe where it's hard to find a fertility rate higher than 1.5. And even in South America it's harder to find a fertility rate higher than 1.9. Even India and Mexico has dropped to 2.0

Saudi Arabia is going to get hit hard one of these days, as they're so dependent on immigrants.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:01 AM
 
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The time is coming where immigrants are going to become more and more scarce, as the low fertility rate sweeps the world, with exceptions from sub-Sahara Africa. We'll be fighting over them some day.

Both Republican and Democratic business owners want cheap labor via immigration, that's a no-brainer.

Low fertility rate, worldwide, invites immigration. Just look to Europe where it's hard to find a fertility rate higher than 1.5. And even in South America it's harder to find a fertility rate higher than 1.9. Even India and Mexico has dropped to 2.0

Saudi Arabia is going to get hit hard one of these days, as they're so dependent on immigrants.
You sound like someone promoting a Ponzi scheme. I believe marketing people refer to that technique as perceived scarcity.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:05 AM
 
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Because, in its core values, there is no difference between the two parties or, any others. They all want only get to the pie and grab the biggest chunk of it. Repubs or Dems, we only smell it and maybe get a crumb ever so often.
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