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Old 10-03-2022, 07:36 AM
 
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seems accurate.

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Carver's claim to scientific fame, by contrast, lies in...well, that is actually hard to say. He obviously did not win a Nobel Prize. In fact, he never won any scientific prizes. Nor did he ever publish articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals. His most famous publication was a bulletin entitled "How to Grow the Peanut and 105 Ways of Preparing It for Human Consumption," in which he gratefully acknowledges drawing from Good Housekeeping, The Montgomery Advertiser, Wallace's Farmer and a number of other magazines, newspapers, and cookbooks.
White Guilt and Black Science

 
Old 10-03-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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seems accurate.
Yes. Most American History is total bull****. Don't get me started on Abraham Lincoln.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:02 AM
 
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I guess it's only fair that if liberals are going to be hypercritical of the founding fathers that they be open to the hypercritical evaluation of black legends, right?

(of course not)
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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His claim to fame was in fact not related to peanuts, that was a byproduct of his crop rotation method that restored farming land's ability to produce high yields of crops. He was praised in his time by then President Theodore Roosevelt as he was well know in his own time before the peanut cook books ect.

Before his method yields of crops, including cotton and food staples were shrinking due to depleted nitrogen in the soil and he developed a low cost method to reverse this process during a time without commercial fertilizers we have today. In essence his contrabution was a major step in re-establishing high cop yields that fed Americans for decades until fertilizers became more available. Even today his method of soil revitalization is still used by farms today, usually with legumes and sweet potatoes instead of peanuts as that marks was undercut by China's peanut farming.

He also developed a agricultural training program for farmers in Alabama to teach farmers this method as their crop yields were low after decades of repeating nitrogen from the ground. We are talking about a Black guy in the early 1900s doing this, something unimaginable at the time. He became a member of the Royal Society of Arts in England in 1916 due to his work re-establishing crop yields because again this was Pre-industrial age so agriculture was extremely important to the economy, health, and safety of a nation.

I am not sure why someone would write a piece about a guy and skip over the most important part of his career and just focus on peanuts or scientific papers from the early 1900s.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:24 AM
 
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His claim to fame was in fact not related to peanuts, that was a byproduct of his crop rotation method that restored farming land's ability to produce high yields of crops. He was praised in his time by then President Theodore Roosevelt as he was well know in his own time before the peanut cook books ect.

Before his method yields of crops, including cotton and food staples were shrinking due to depleted nitrogen in the soil and he developed a low cost method to reverse this process during a time without commercial fertilizers we have today. In essence his contrabution was a major step in re-establishing high cop yields that fed Americans for decades until fertilizers became more available. Even today his method of soil revitalization is still used by farms today, usually with legumes and sweet potatoes instead of peanuts as that marks was undercut by China's peanut farming.

He also developed a agricultural training program for farmers in Alabama to teach farmers this method as their crop yields were low after decades of repeating nitrogen from the ground. We are talking about a Black guy in the early 1900s doing this, something unimaginable at the time. He became a member of the Royal Society of Arts in England in 1916 due to his work re-establishing crop yields because again this was Pre-industrial age so agriculture was extremely important to the economy, health, and safety of a nation.

I am not sure why someone would write a piece about a guy and skip over the most important part of his career and just focus on peanuts or scientific papers from the early 1900s.
farmers have been rotating crops for 8000 years. it's hardly new.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:27 AM
 
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He was praised in his time by then President Theodore Roosevelt as he was well know in his own time before the peanut cook books ect.
George Washington Carver wasn't so much a scientist as a science-popularizer. Kind of like a Bill Nye or a Neil deGrasse Tyson. He didn't invent anything. Not even the peanut rotation like you claim. What he did do was help farmers find ways to turn peanuts into profits. He looked for and tried to develop products made with peanuts, and helped market them to American consumers.

He didn't invent Peanut Butter like we were taught, but he helped make peanut butter an American staple.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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Eh,.leave the guy alone,..lol.

Leave attacking history to the Left.

;p
 
Old 10-03-2022, 09:31 AM
 
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Carver was born into slavery in Missouri, abducted as an infant by slave raiders and taken to Kentucky, found, and returned back to his original master's home without his mother or sister. He managed to get an education and bounced around different schools and colleges until gaining a Masters' degree at Iowa State University. Much of his early horticultural knowledge was self-taught on the farm he homesteaded in Kansas until he entered college. He became the head of the Agriculture Department at Tuskegee Institute. He did not invent crop rotation but promoted the idea and it resulted in improved crop yields. Crop rotation was a new practice in the American south. His work with peanuts was also mostly as a promoter but he invented dozens of uses for peanuts, making it a profitable crop. There were a number of horticultural and crop advances being made by Carver, Luther Burbank, and by various nurseries at about the same time. Much of Burbank's work was with fruit and other crops. The Red Delicious and Golden Delicious apples were introduced about that time by Stark Brothers Nursery. Among them, the lowly peanut was transformed by Carver into a household product.

It is not a household product in my house as I personally despise the taste of peanuts and peanut butter, but I still give him credit for his achievements.

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Old 10-03-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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This is when discretion should be utilized properly and one should choose their battles wisely.

How does arguing this point help anything today? If you want people of color to join you in your quest for a better country - this ain't it.
 
Old 10-03-2022, 10:04 AM
 
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His claim to fame was in fact not related to peanuts, that was a byproduct of his crop rotation method that restored farming land's ability to produce high yields of crops. He was praised in his time by then President Theodore Roosevelt as he was well know in his own time before the peanut cook books ect.

Before his method yields of crops, including cotton and food staples were shrinking due to depleted nitrogen in the soil and he developed a low cost method to reverse this process during a time without commercial fertilizers we have today. In essence his contrabution was a major step in re-establishing high cop yields that fed Americans for decades until fertilizers became more available. Even today his method of soil revitalization is still used by farms today, usually with legumes and sweet potatoes instead of peanuts as that marks was undercut by China's peanut farming.

He also developed a agricultural training program for farmers in Alabama to teach farmers this method as their crop yields were low after decades of repeating nitrogen from the ground. We are talking about a Black guy in the early 1900s doing this, something unimaginable at the time. He became a member of the Royal Society of Arts in England in 1916 due to his work re-establishing crop yields because again this was Pre-industrial age so agriculture was extremely important to the economy, health, and safety of a nation.

I am not sure why someone would write a piece about a guy and skip over the most important part of his career and just focus on peanuts or scientific papers from the early 1900s.

Re: crop rotation. George Washington (the original) was doing that in the 18th Century.


"In August 1786, George Washington began to reconfigure the fields at Dogue Run and Muddy Hole from the old three-field arrangement to a new seven-field system. This enabled him to adopt a seven year crop rotation focused on wheat as the principal cash crop, corn for domestic food needs, and legumes to rejuvenate the soil."

https://www.mountvernon.org/library/...d-agriculture/
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