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Trump praised Russia for taking Crimea. He called the build-up of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border a "genius move." He said Ukraine would fall "fairly quickly." He's always liked Putin. Now he'll take his words back since Russia is losing so badly because we all know Trump will abandon ship so quickly just to say he was right.
When did he praise Crimea? That was 2014.
Calling the buildup a "genius" move isn't the same thing as condoning. It's simply saying it was an effective move for Russia. If you're rooting for your home team, recognizing a great play by the other team doesn't mean you are rooting for the other team. You speak of words, let's look at actions.
Trump's actions were not pro-Russian. He fired 67 cruise missiles into Russia-backed Syrian airbases. He repeatedly warned the EU to not become dependent on Russian energy. He raised the pressure on NATO countries to increase their funding.
NATO bombed Serbia in 1999. Serbia didn't attack any NATO member state. NATO's charter says nothing about taking actions against a country under attack that is not a member
Yes, that was done (as you know) to prevent a genocide by Serbians against Kosovo. NATO should have acted sooner, before Serbian Slobodan Milosevic committed war crimes against Bosnia.
Why is it that Russia and her allies (Serbia, Syria) are always trying to commit genocide?
Yes, that was done (as you know) to prevent a genocide by Serbians against Kosovo. NATO should have acted sooner, before Serbian Slobodan Milosevic committed war crimes against Bosnia.
Maybe ethnic cleansing since Serbian forces were fighting KLA separatists who hid among the civilian population. So tens of thousands fled/were forced out by Serbian forces.
The KLA made its first public statement in late 1997 during a funeral service for an Albanian teacher killed by Serbian police. The speech was a call to arms outlining the KLA’s position and objectives, which included the secession of Kosovo from Serbia and the eventual creation of a “Greater Albania,”
Still nothing in NATO's Charter says they have to get involved in conflicts within borders of other non NATO countries. It's a defense pact between member nations. If individual countries want to supply the Ukrainian with arms more power to them. This is turning into a NATO vs Russia war rather than a Russia vs Ukraine war. Not good at all.
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Why is it that Russia and her allies (Serbia, Syria) are always trying to commit genocide?
You don't think NATO countries have massacred people too? What has NATO member Turkey done to its Kurdish population in Turkey and Syria? Nevermind it's recent history in Cyprus the Aegean violations against its NATO ally Greece and Armenians long ago. And Nevermind what the human toll of the US invasion of Iraq was...
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Yes, that was done (as you know) to prevent a genocide by Serbians against Kosovo. NATO should have acted sooner, before Serbian Slobodan Milosevic committed war crimes against Bosnia.
Why is it that Russia and her allies (Serbia, Syria) are always trying to commit genocide?
1. No UN authorization.
2. You do know that the "freedom fighters" have been indicted in the Hague?
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This morning using "tactical" nuclear weapons in the Ukraine has become a topic of grave concern.
How do you think the allies will respond if Russia uses any nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
NATO would go in to Ukraine with other global allies as part of a UN Directorate, and would secure the country, and provide aid and assistance.
Russia would be told to move it's remaining forces out of Ukrainian territory or face being targeted by NATO aircraft and ground forces.
NATO's nuclear missiles would be on high alert, and it would be made clear to Russia that it would be destroyed if it used nuclear missiles against any NATO country.
Russia seems to forget that it's not the only country with nuclear missiles, despite it's abhorrent threats.
The targeting of Putin and his family in the event of a war would be a priority.
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Russia seems to forget that it's not the only country with nuclear missiles.
No it doesn't, rofl. The real question is whether Russia would use nukes if there was an eminent existential threat? There are many who don't even believe Russia would use nukes if it was faced with full-scale invasion.
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No it doesn't, rofl. The real question is whether Russia would use nukes if there was an eminent existential threat? There are many who don't even believe Russia would use nukes if it was faced with full-scale invasion.
Russia has continually threatened the west with it's nuclear arsenal, as if it has impunity, which it doesn't.
If we are destroyed then so is Russia including Putin and his family.
Russia is not going to be invaded, however if it sets a small tactical nuclear weapon off in Ukraine, then NATO would go in under a UN remit in order to help the survivors.
In terms of Russia's conventional forces they have turned out to be little more than a joke, and other than it's own mutual self destruction, Russia has few options but to withdraw from Ukraine and end it's pathetic and embarrassing so called special operation.
I also wouldn't be surprised if most of Russia's ageing cold war rusting nuclear missiles don't even work any more.
Probably have to impeach Biden/Harris and get someone in charge with functional brains.
You impeach Biden/Harris and Nancy Pelosi will likely take over. Not sure that is an improvement.
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What has NATO member Turkey done to its 
