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Old 10-08-2022, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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I don't believe Saudi Arabia has ever been our friend. I get that Trump had friendly relations with them. So did the Bushes. But look where OBL came from there as well as many of the hijackers. Look at how under Trump they killed a legal resident of the USA and chopped him into pieces because they did not like what he was saying about the government. And they are aligned with Russia.

Is their government any better than Venezuela? Both pretty horrible to me.
Just think about a country that does not allow women to drive a car.

 
Old 10-08-2022, 07:25 AM
 
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Just think about a country that does not allow women to drive a car.
I think SA lets them do that now. As long as they are covered head to toe.

The only silver lining to me if gas vehicles and other things run on gas no longer exist some day in the future. Its going to hit the middle east, Russia and Venezuela very hard. We are more diversified so it will impact us less.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The pieces are being moved on the chessboard
Yep. Alliances are being made. It is increasingly the world vs the Anglos and their Eastern European vassals. Not even Germany wants part in what America is doing.

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Ukraine is not worth it.
Ukraine is worth it, if you like America.

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I think Putin's original plan was to invade the entire country of Ukraine, as well as some areas around Ukraine such as Moldova.
Putin's original plan was to pressure Ukraine and the West for an agreement that Ukraine would never join NATO. There was no need for anything else.

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Originally Posted by Oklazona Bound View Post
I don't believe Saudi Arabia has ever been our friend. I get that Trump had friendly relations with them. So did the Bushes. But look where OBL came from there as well as many of the hijackers. Look at how under Trump they killed a legal resident of the USA and chopped him into pieces because they did not like what he was saying about the government. And they are aligned with Russia.
Saudi Arabia has always hated us. They tolerated us because they were fearful of communism, Iranians, and the Baath Party. But now they fear us more than Russia, China, or even Iran. We'll be pushing for regime-change in Saudi Arabia soon.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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Yep. Alliances are being made. It is increasingly the world vs the Anglos and their Eastern European vassals. Not even Germany wants part in what America is doing.

Ukraine is worth it, if you like America.

Putin's original plan was to pressure Ukraine and the West for an agreement that Ukraine would never join NATO. There was no need for anything else.

Saudi Arabia has always hated us. They tolerated us because they were fearful of communism, Iranians, and the Baath Party. But now they fear us more than Russia, China, or even Iran. We'll be pushing for regime-change in Saudi Arabia soon.

India concerns me as they seem increasingly close to Russia and China. They seem to have fairly docile leaders over the years. But what is to say they don't have some radical leader who is anti USA and convinces the people they need to have an authoritarian regime more like China or Russia. And they start building up their military.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 07:48 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Food for thought:

Only 24 countries have agreed to "Agenda 2030" and the UN just agreed to it.
But this didn't start today.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...nd-agenda-2030
 
Old 10-08-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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The end is not far away now ray.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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In all fairness, how do we know he's in a bunker? Wouldn't his location be secret/unknown most of the time?

Also, I'm fairly certain Zelensky is in a bunker most of his time.

They're at war, and they're only separated by a couple hundred miles.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 08:35 AM
 
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In all fairness, how do we know he's in a bunker? Wouldn't his location be secret/unknown most of the time?

Also, I'm fairly certain Zelensky is in a bunker most of his time.

They're at war, and they're only separated by a couple hundred miles.

Zelensky is worried about Russian killing him. Putin is worried about his own people doing it. But they are probably both in bunkers.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 08:38 AM
 
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I’m old enough to remember people screeching that Trump was going to start a nuclear war and bring about armageddon. Oddly those same people are more terrified about covid than their guy who actually talks about doing it.
 
Old 10-08-2022, 08:41 AM
 
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Zelensky is worried about Russian killing him. Putin is worried about his own people doing it. But they are probably both in bunkers.
We should take out Zelensky. Maybe the CIA could enlist a patriot celeb to go over for one of those photo ops he is famous for and slip him a mickey.
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