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Old 10-28-2022, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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What I find so remarkable is that while wearing a mask is “pain”, it is a low-cost, accessible, and simple mechanism to try and mitigate the spread of COVID. I agree that not every circumstance (like eating in a restaurant) lends itself to wearing a mask, but wearing one while doing “passive activities” like sitting on a bus, going grocery shopping, doing business at the bank, etc. seems like a pretty low bar to establish for protecting the public’s health. Masks don’t have to be (and realistically can’t be) worn all the time, but that doesn’t mean it’s useless not to wear them when they can be. The idea is to reduce the number of opportunities to spread the virus. And yes, there is plenty of evidence that masks have at least some ability to limit the spread of COVID. Are they perfect, no.
Well, yeah, those activities are gonna be "passive" if you're wearing a f***ing face covering while doing them. Some of us like to smile and read facial cues and establish human connection, though, while we go about our business. Accepting the concept of "passive activities" means accepting a limited life. There's no reason to do that for a bad cold (which there is ostensibly a vaccine for).
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Old 10-28-2022, 12:59 PM
 
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I guess only a 100% reduction would satisfy you.

What you cannot seem to understand is that even "incredibly modest" reductions in aerosolized virus helps.
Helps in what sense?

Unless masking slows transmission enough to reach an R < 1, it cannot control transmission. And 10% (which could be 0% by their confidence interval) is a far cry from 100% lol.

Think of it like a heater in your home. If the heater can only heat your home by 1 degree, it does you no good. You might as well have no heater. Saying your heater is working is being delusional.
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Old 10-28-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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Well, yeah, those activities are gonna be "passive" if you're wearing a f***ing face covering while doing them. Some of us like to smile and read facial cues and establish human connection, though, while we go about our business. Accepting the concept of "passive activities" means accepting a limited life. There's no reason to do that for a bad cold (which there is ostensibly a vaccine for).
Given how mild COVID is, I'm sure most sane Americans would trade getting COVID a few times a year versus masking obsessively for the entire year. And that presumes masks work.
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Old 10-28-2022, 01:47 PM
 
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Given how mild COVID is, I'm sure most sane Americans would trade getting COVID a few times a year versus masking obsessively for the entire year. And that presumes masks work.
I’m sure the million people who died from COVID in the US would take exception with your lax perspective.
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Old 10-28-2022, 01:50 PM
 
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Well, yeah, those activities are gonna be "passive" if you're wearing a f***ing face covering while doing them. Some of us like to smile and read facial cues and establish human connection, though, while we go about our business. Accepting the concept of "passive activities" means accepting a limited life. There's no reason to do that for a bad cold (which there is ostensibly a vaccine for).
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I would offer that the benefits of masking in the manner which I described far outweigh the cost or inconvenience you mentioned above. Frankly, I think you are being pretty selfish…if you don’t care about yourself, maybe you might just not infect a family member, a friend, or even an innocent stranger.
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Old 10-28-2022, 02:00 PM
 
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I guess only a 100% reduction would satisfy you.

What you cannot seem to understand is that even "incredibly modest" reductions in aerosolized virus helps.
I expect the benefits from any reduction in my personal risk to exceed the cost of the inconvenience and/or side effects incurred.

And the cost of inconvenience FAR exceeds any benefit.
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Old 10-28-2022, 02:01 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I’m sure the million people who died from COVID in the US would take exception with your lax perspective.
What about the 10s of millions of children who lost 1-2 years of development and education? The millions of people who lost their jobs, homes, and/or livelihood? How about the millions who suffered from mental illness, depression, anxiety, and drug/alcohol dependency because of the overwrought response?

I'm sure they would take exception with your lax perspective.
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Old 10-28-2022, 02:27 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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I’m sure the million people who died from COVID in the US would take exception with your lax perspective.
Many of those lives could have been saved if they were given early treatment.
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Old 10-28-2022, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Given how mild COVID is, I'm sure most sane Americans would trade getting COVID a few times a year versus masking obsessively for the entire year. And that presumes masks work.
My husband and I were both pretty sick from
Covid. Neither hospitalized but felt pretty bad. Having said that, I never wore a mask before I had it and I never wore one after. Masks do not stop it anyway.
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Old 10-28-2022, 03:11 PM
 
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I’m sure the million people who died from COVID in the US would take exception with your lax perspective.
I don't believe that 1 million died from COVID in the USA, more like 600,000. Most of them were close to death anyway, so maybe a few years off their life. It sucks for their families of course.

But step outside. How many Americans are wearing masks? I was just in NYC Wednesday, and even there, barely anyone is wearing them. Americans no longer care about COVID.
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