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Old 10-29-2022, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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COVID much less dangerous than previously assumed

Just thinking, this statement is true but depending for to whom. Ok so we all know that it is the elderly and infirm who are at most risk. Comorbidities has been mentioned a few times. Well, here it is from the Ministry of Health.

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People living in highly deprived areas, also had disproportionate risk. Those from the most deprived communities were three times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those from the most affluent communities.
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Comorbidities
The study has also found that people who had any comorbidities (underlying health conditions) had more than six times the risk than people without comorbidities. For people under the age of 60, almost all who died had a known underlying health condition
That pretty much confirms what we all have been saying.

 
Old 10-30-2022, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It's like mammographies. When they began pushing yearly screenings, we saw a surge in cancer diagnosis, however cancer deaths remained the same. What we'd have expected to see was an initial surge in cancer diagnosis, and then return to baseline, with a huge reduction in cancer deaths.

Of course, most of these "cancers" found in the screenings were in asymptomatic persons, and likely this "cancer" would remain indolent and never metastasize. Instead, they were subjected to surgery and toxic drugs for a clump of harmless cells that share similar proteins with cells that do metastasize.
Breast cancer mortality has been declining in the age group targeted for mammography screening, but not in the younger unscreened population and older women who are no longer having mammograms.

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.11...iol.2021203476

By the way, breast cancer is not diagnosed with a mammogram alone. A biopsy is necessary to do that.

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Same kind of thing with colonoscopies. Recently published researched showed they have zero effect on lifespan, and minimal effect on colon cancer incidence.
Source for that "Recently published researched"?

Removing pre-malignant polyps at the time of colonoscopy eliminates the opportunity for them to become malignant.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 05:56 AM
 
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Twenty seven thousand COVID related deaths in North Carolina alone.

Compare that to about seventeen hundred traffic related deaths or the number one cause of deaths, cancer, checking in at nineteen thousand for NC.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:34 AM
 
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Breast cancer mortality has been declining in the age group targeted for mammography screening, but not in the younger unscreened population and older women who are no longer having mammograms.

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.11...iol.2021203476

By the way, breast cancer is not diagnosed with a mammogram alone. A biopsy is necessary to do that.



Source for that "Recently published researched"?

Removing pre-malignant polyps at the time of colonoscopy eliminates the opportunity for them to become malignant.
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Thus the cumulative mortality from breast cancer was similar between women in the mammography arm and in the control arm (hazard ratio 0.99, 95% confidence interval 0.88 to 1.12). After 15 years of follow-up a residual excess of 106 cancers was observed in the mammography arm, attributable to over-diagnosis.
https://www.bmj.com/content/348/bmj.g366

Results from a RCT. No reason to get your mammography, you most likely won’t live longer.

Lastly, yes they do a biopsy and they’re more likely to over diagnosis you as having cancer when you don’t.

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Women were more likely to have breast cancer that was overdiagnosed than to have earlier detection of a tumor that was destined to become large. The reduction in breast cancer mortality after the implementation of screening mammography was predominantly the result of improved systemic therapy.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa1600249

Once you get an incorrect diagnosis of having cancer, they will do surgery, give you toxic drugs, and your stress will go through the roof.

Don’t do cancer screening period. It makes no sense.

Colonoscopies are a similarly useless (and more invasive) intervention. See here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2208375
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:35 AM
 
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For some reason those people haven't ever figured out that they can pass COVID on to vulnerable populations.

For some reason they won't accept the fact that vaccines protected people from real severe COVID or deaths.

They want to insist that all these people dropped dead of the vaccine. So effectively any sudden death now gets blamed on the vaccine. Used to be that people had heart attacks, embolisms, heart electrical malfunctions. Now they are all due to the vaccine.
And people died FROM these things all through the COVID hysteria.

There are millions upon millions of people that didn't get vaccinated and either didn't get COVID at all, or got it and suffered nothing more than they would have with mild flu. Vaccinated people in 'vulnerable populations' still contracted COVID and died with/from it. I simply don't understand why people can't accept the growing amount of evidence that suggests this vaccine(s) likely had precious little to do with ANYTHING other lining the pockets of Pfizer, Moderna, and mainstream media.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:38 AM
 
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Twenty seven thousand COVID related deaths in North Carolina alone.

Compare that to about seventeen hundred traffic related deaths or the number one cause of deaths, cancer, checking in at nineteen thousand for NC.
See they already got you. That’s for almost 3 years. And this number is inflated, but anyways divide by 3, 27,000 becomes 9,000.

Be afraid! Very afraid! Of a runny nose :/
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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For some reason those people haven't ever figured out that they can pass COVID on to vulnerable populations.

For some reason they won't accept the fact that vaccines protected people from real severe COVID or deaths.

They want to insist that all these people dropped dead of the vaccine. So effectively any sudden death now gets blamed on the vaccine. Used to be that people had heart attacks, embolisms, heart electrical malfunctions. Now they are all due to the vaccine.
Everyone I know who got covid received the vaccine, most got the booster and still got covid including myself. I've never seen such a worthless vaccine and booster in my life. The vaccine didn't reduce severity, the virus mutated to a weaker version like they all do and continue to do.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:50 AM
 
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The desperation to handwave away hundreds of thousands of deaths due to covid infections, from the start of the pandemic in 2020, continues. Next we'll hear the 1918 flu pandemic wasn't really much of anything.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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The desperation to handwave away hundreds of thousands of deaths due to covid infections, from the start of the pandemic in 2020, continues. Next we'll hear the 1918 flu pandemic wasn't really much of anything.
Is the “1918 flu pandemic” your bench for a serious pandemic?

It’s also much over nothing. Last year of WW1, mostly affected young men who were stressed due to war and living in horrid conditions.

Viruses have never been a big threat to humanity.
 
Old 10-30-2022, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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So covid was less dangerous than the vaccine.

For young people under 60 years of age, YES.
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