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Old 12-19-2022, 08:01 AM
 
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Averages don't tell you anything about the variances. We're finding out that one of the impacts of global warming (at least for the US/Europe) is greater fluctuation in weather events, including more extreme cold at times. This is hypothesized to be due to polar amplification, which is unhinging the jet stream.

Global warming is not the same as local warming, although the climate change deniers would have you believe otherwise.


Due to "climate change" we're going to have really cold arctic outbreaks and heat waves.

This has been happening since the dawn of time. Notice how the Climate Alarmists are now using "weather events" to justify their climate change alarmism.

Just this week alone, climate alarmists have said that the tornado outbreak, the feet of lake effect snow and now the severe arctic outbreak is a result of climate change. They've now renamed storm fronts in California as "atmospheric rivers". It rains 1" and they now declare it is a "juiced" storm due to climate change. You can't make this stuff up. When it rains during the CA rainy season, it's because of climate change. And when it doesn't rain in the dry season, it's because of climate change.

Also notice that none of the alarmists have a solution on how to Make the Earth Cold Again! They complain a lot and really want to place blame on a particular group of taxpayers though. LOL
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Old 12-19-2022, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Global warming is not the same as local warming, although the climate change deniers would have you believe otherwise.

this one is just flat out false.


No such thing as a 'climate change denier' (in the larger sense, there are those of you who think there are 70? 90 'genders' so clearly, totally boogered up people exist)


What the conservatives are telling you, is that the planet, whose 'climate' has changed wily nilly many times is: its not gonna kill everyone as you claim


I can just imagine if you were around when people lived in caves and dragged women by their hair (<---I think that is totally made up but the left likes to run with it so who am I to argue) as the real glaciers, which covered over 50% of this nation melted, you would have claimed we are all flocked and had only 12 years left to live (cept for the fact you had not invented 12 yet, OR the concept of a year....)

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Old 12-19-2022, 08:53 AM
 
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Averages don't tell you anything about the variances. We're finding out that one of the impacts of global warming (at least for the US/Europe) is greater fluctuation in weather events, including more extreme cold at times. This is hypothesized to be due to polar amplification, which is unhinging the jet stream.

Global warming is not the same as local warming, although the climate change deniers would have you believe otherwise.
That has been my understanding all along. The weather extremes will be more extreme.

Now about that coffee needing very specific temperatures to grow.
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:17 AM
 
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People who are either too stupid or too brainwashed or too invested in Leftist dogma are incapable of ever undestanding that the theory of anthropogenic global warming is a hoax desiged by the elite to use climate alarmism to deprive the Western nations of cheap fossil fuel energy, in order to usher in a New World Order under defacto global governance.

You can post the truth until the cows come home, but the number of people who are aware of this fact have no power to oppose the massive government and corporate forces hellbent on implementing this New World Order, or the hundred million useful idiots that they convinced that man is destroying the Erf.
You think the truth is that we can continue to dump CO2 into the atmosphere in huge quantities and not have an effect on climate? Climate change is fact, and the climate is going to get worse, with bigger extremes in temperatures, more destructive storms, more deaths from drought and famine, new diseases, and issues we haven't even considered.
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:18 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Why did they only go back to 1967 ? What happened in 1966 ?
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:19 AM
 
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Here is a NASA article that states that water vapor comprise more than 50% of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, but does not quantify it. I am still looking for something with a set percentage. This says "most abundant" which implies 51% or higher. I want to find a specific number.


Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change


Water vapor is known to be Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fe...r_warming.html
Most abundant doesn't mean more than 50%. If the split was 35% water vapor, 25% methane, 20% CO2, and 20% other, then water vapor would still be the most abundant.
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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Why did they only go back to 1967 ? What happened in 1966 ?
Poor data quality? No data? Data isn't usable? Who knows. Don't read conspiracy into everything.
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:27 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Not everyone is buying it....


https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-mi...000045496.html
But the article is misleading. While mid-November snow cover did exceed the 56-year record for that specific week in mid-November, cover was not at an overall 56-year high. Further, global warming and climate change are processes that involve multiple Earth systems and are measured on long timescales, so short-term snow cover data is not enough to confirm or negate global warming, according to researchers.

The author of the article could not be reached.
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:28 AM
 
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That has been my understanding all along. The weather extremes will be more extreme.

Now about that coffee needing very specific temperatures to grow.
How could that be your understanding all along when climatologists were saying (in 2000)

that kids wouldn't know what snow was???
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Old 12-19-2022, 09:29 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Poor data quality? No data? Data isn't usable? Who knows. Don't read conspiracy into everything.
We have data going back to the 1600's on winter snowfall.
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