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Old 01-03-2023, 11:51 AM
 
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And out of that 200,000 years of human history, we've only been able to build villages, hamlets and towns during the last 10,000 years.

And of the last 10,000 years, we had very very basic economies and trade up until about 500 years ago.

And in the last 500 years, basically everything we have today in terms of knowledge, living standards, government, laws, technology came into existence.

All of mankind's success happened only in the warm post glacial Holocene period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene
Don't forget to mention that only 12,000 years ago, sea levels were 400 ft below what they are today and explorers continue to discover ancient ruins that were once sea-side/ now underwater.

Due to ice age cycles and the occasional volcanic cataclysm, sea levels vary wildly (on a geologic time-scale), so the real question is, how close are we to equilibrium? Do we have 1m, 10 or 100 meters to go before it starts going down again?

It's laughable that anthropogenic impact bears even slightest significance compared to the geologic swings that true, not manufactured science has documented. Trust history, not computer simulations (as there's bias in the coding because there's profit in the bias).
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Old 01-03-2023, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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When people talk about science for profits, I’m thinking scientists paid by oil companies.
Science for profits, such as all of the false science the rich and powerful Healthcare companies, Pharmaceuticals, Medical organizations, and hospitals paid for to maximize their profits.
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Old 01-03-2023, 01:56 PM
 
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When people talk about science for profits, I’m thinking scientists paid by oil companies.
..and the rest of us thinking about what a scam it is

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you're exactly right....in over 50 years...all of global warming..the US, EU, even Russia and Japan
....have not increased their CO2 emissions

all of the increase has come...directly or indirectly...from China...all of it
...China has increased their emissions over 12 times more
China emits over 2 1/2 times more CO2 than the US

and China is increasing their CO2 emissions

China is 100% responsible for all of global warming


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ederations.png
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Old 01-03-2023, 01:59 PM
 
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Always the least convenient fact for MMGW zealots - how much CO2 China outputs all by their lonesome. They have single handedly not only negated all emission reductions achieved by the US and EU combined, since 2001, but also made global emissions increase exponentially IN SPITE of the US and EU efforts.

But apparently since they are not the US and EU...it doesn't count? Their CO2 is different? Their coal burning has no emission?

It is quite odd, right?
not odd at all....if you're pulling a scam

you don't ban arsenic.....and then say China can increase it because

CO2/global warming can't be as dangerous as they put on....you don't do that if it was
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Old 01-03-2023, 02:21 PM
 
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you're exactly right....in over 50 years...all of global warming..the US, EU, even Russia and Japan
....have not increased their CO2 emissions

all of the increase has come...directly or indirectly...from China...all of it
...China has increased their emissions over 12 times more
China emits over 2 1/2 times more CO2 than the US

and China is increasing their CO2 emissions

China is 100% responsible for all of global warming


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ederations.png




About 10 years ago, a purchasing manager for the company I worked for made a trip to China to tour a company that we were thinking of bringing on as a vendor.

During the course of the tour, he was separated from the group and witnessed a few of that companies employee dumping paint related solvent waste drums into a nearby waterway.

When he rejoined the group, he asked his guide about it and was curtly told not to worry about it.

To quote what the guide told him: "You had your industrial revolution, now we're having ours".
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Old 01-03-2023, 02:28 PM
 
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To quote what the guide told him: "You had your industrial revolution, now we're having ours".
The EXACT reason the US-EU climate change cultists "forgive" China and India for their carbon footprints. See, because they are advancing their nations economically, their CO2 is magic CO2 that doesn't count. Their coal fired plants are magic, clean and spread pixie dust into the atmosphere.

Bring up any of this about China and India to any of those moron cultists, and the excuse making, rationalization, justification and obfuscation is legendary.
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Old 01-03-2023, 02:38 PM
 
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Don't forget to mention that only 12,000 years ago, sea levels were 400 ft below what they are today and explorers continue to discover ancient ruins that were once sea-side/ now underwater.

Due to ice age cycles and the occasional volcanic cataclysm, sea levels vary wildly (on a geologic time-scale), so the real question is, how close are we to equilibrium? Do we have 1m, 10 or 100 meters to go before it starts going down again?

It's laughable that anthropogenic impact bears even slightest significance compared to the geologic swings that true, not manufactured science has documented. Trust history, not computer simulations (as there's bias in the coding because there's profit in the bias).
Yep, we have lost an incredible amount of ancient human history due to sea level rise. We tend to settle at coasts near river mouths and along river banks. All of those settlements vanished under the sea. And if we look at Africa, the Sahara was a green place, full of rivers and streams, that would have been perfect for mankind to have established settlements. Today, those same areas are buried under thousands of feet of drifting sand.
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Old 01-03-2023, 09:47 PM
 
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the earth exists for humans to use it’s resources and prosper. now if one is concerned about malevolent carbon dioxide making long term weather undesirable there is great news. apparently there are naturally growing organic plant based life forms that grow very tall and reduce those naughty carbon levels. the best thing is, you can get the seeds everywhere and for free. also, it doesn’t cost nothin to plant them
Earth has been around for billions of years. Humans have only been around for millions. So no the earth does not exist for humans. It exists for all life. And it certainly doesn't exist for humans to abuse. We can easily be taken out and earth starting over again.
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Old 01-04-2023, 06:02 AM
 
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Do liberals actually think Democrats will solve Climate Change? I ask this because CC seems pretty high up in Democrat voters' concerns. Some will tell us that we have less than a decade left on Earth.

And if people think the Democrats have the answers, what do they think the solution is to a climate that is changing?

Also, assuming the solution works, what global mean temperature should we aim for? Is there a number that we can peg success to?

And at what cost are we willing spend, to get to that magic number and at what cost are willing to sacrifice to stabilize the climate at that temperature forever and ever?
Still waiting for Miami to be under water as predicted by the climate guru!

"Al Gore’s movie ‘An Inconvenient Truth" says sea levels could rise up to 20 feet back in 2008.
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Old 01-04-2023, 06:05 AM
 
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They’ll believe whatever they’re told, especially it’s fearmongered enough.
And taught, or should I say "brainwashed", starting in our elementary schools!

I remeber these kids being FORCED to watch algores movie!

We are mow suffering the consequences of that indoctrination!
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