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Old 01-02-2023, 04:16 PM
 
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Ok, name one solution to Climate Change? And what was it that made it a solution?

We've spent trillions towards Global Warming and yet, the Earth continues to warm. So maybe we're not spending enough? Right? Let's spend 1 quadrillion to finally stop the warming. It's getting hot.

You apparently didn't read my post carefully. I very clearly said that Dems don't usually use the word "solution," and also mentioned "proposed" solutions, not accomplishments. It makes it difficult to accomplish much if conservative deniers and greedy businesses block everything.

Second, since you're the one asking the question, it's up to you to look up the proposed solutions.
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Old 01-02-2023, 05:49 PM
 
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You apparently didn't read my post carefully. I very clearly said that Dems don't usually use the word "solution," and also mentioned "proposed" solutions, not accomplishments. It makes it difficult to accomplish much if conservative deniers and greedy businesses block everything.

Second, since you're the one asking the question, it's up to you to look up the proposed solutions.
"Proposed solutions" are just hyperbole, to get votes from the misinformed.
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Old 01-02-2023, 07:07 PM
 
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You apparently didn't read my post carefully. I very clearly said that Dems don't usually use the word "solution," and also mentioned "proposed" solutions, not accomplishments. It makes it difficult to accomplish much if conservative deniers and greedy businesses block everything.

Second, since you're the one asking the question, it's up to you to look up the proposed solutions.
Ok, so the Dems have no "solutions", (your words), so what is the point in anything they mandate on certain populations?
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Old 01-03-2023, 07:38 AM
 
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Let us know when you decide to live in a cave and BTW, do tell us how you plan on talking China, India and other countries to go along with all those lovely platitudes.
Fact - between JUST China and India, there is a new coal fired electrical plant cranked up every...single...week, and they plan to continue doing so until AT LEAST 2030.

As we close ours, all we do is shift where the coal gets burned and which economy benefits from the reliable energy source.

Thanks for pointing out the one thing none of the American or European navel gazers and pearl clutchers seem to get about all their efforts to wreck the US-EU economies - China and India DO NOT CARE, and are happy to shift the economic power balance their own way.
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Old 01-03-2023, 07:41 AM
 
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Fact - between JUST China and India, there is a new coal fired electrical plant cranked up every...single...week, and they plan to continue doing so until AT LEAST 2030.

As we close ours, all we do is shift where the coal gets burned and which economy benefits from the reliable energy source.

Thanks for pointing out the one thing none of the American or European navel gazers and pearl clutchers seem to get about all their efforts to wreck the US-EU economies - China and India DO NOT CARE, and are happy to shift the economic power balance their own way.


A topic that deserves it's own thread.
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Old 01-03-2023, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Fact - between JUST China and India, there is a new coal fired electrical plant cranked up every...single...week, and they plan to continue doing so until AT LEAST 2030.

As we close ours, all we do is shift where the coal gets burned and which economy benefits from the reliable energy source.

Thanks for pointing out the one thing none of the American or European navel gazers and pearl clutchers seem to get about all their efforts to wreck the US-EU economies - China and India DO NOT CARE, and are happy to shift the economic power balance their own way.
The entire purpose for Climate Alarmism is to destroy the economies of the western nations, America foremost, through starving them of cheap energy. The goal of destroying the western economies is to reduce their international influence to make way for a New World Order, defacto global governance, and to shift the wealth of the western nations to the developing nations.

Destroying the western economies is the immediate purpose for pushing Climate Alarmism.
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Old 01-03-2023, 10:07 AM
 
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As we close ours, all we do is shift where the coal gets burned and which economy benefits from the reliable energy source.
in 2021 the USA shipped over 15mn metric tons of coal to China....

....5 times as much as 2020.....3mn metric tons of coal to China just the year before

somehow China does not emit CO2 at all

of course it's a scam
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Old 01-03-2023, 10:49 AM
 
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in 2021 the USA shipped over 15mn metric tons of coal to China....

....5 times as much as 2020.....3mn metric tons of coal to China just the year before

somehow China does not emit CO2 at all

of course it's a scam
Always the least convenient fact for MMGW zealots - how much CO2 China outputs all by their lonesome. They have single handedly not only negated all emission reductions achieved by the US and EU combined, since 2001, but also made global emissions increase exponentially IN SPITE of the US and EU efforts.

But apparently since they are not the US and EU...it doesn't count? Their CO2 is different? Their coal burning has no emission?

It is quite odd, right?
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Old 01-03-2023, 11:06 AM
 
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you're exactly right....in over 50 years...all of global warming..the US, EU, even Russia and Japan
....have not increased their CO2 emissions

all of the increase has come...directly or indirectly...from China...all of it
...China has increased their emissions over 12 times more
China emits over 2 1/2 times more CO2 than the US

and China is increasing their CO2 emissions

China is 100% responsible for all of global warming


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Always the least convenient fact for MMGW zealots - how much CO2 China outputs all by their lonesome. They have single handedly not only negated all emission reductions achieved by the US and EU combined, since 2001, but also made global emissions increase exponentially IN SPITE of the US and EU efforts.

But apparently since they are not the US and EU...it doesn't count? Their CO2 is different? Their coal burning has no emission?

It is quite odd, right?
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Old 01-03-2023, 11:13 AM
 
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you're exactly right....in over 50 years...all of global warming..the US, EU, even Russia and Japan
....have not increased their CO2 emissions

all of the increase has come...directly or indirectly...from China...all of it
...China has increased their emissions over 12 times more
China emits over 2 1/2 times more CO2 than the US

and China is increasing their CO2 emissions

China is 100% responsible for all of global warming
A point I have made countless times, so thanks for helping echo it.

Bottom line, since ~2005ish, China all by their lonesome has been emitting more CO2 alone than all the major players did COMBINED in year 2000. Thus, since 2005, had the US and EU literally stopped even letting humans exhale, for a legit ZERO in CO2 output, China would still be emitting more global CO2 than everyone did in year 2000. And again, as both of us have pointed out, they only increase their output every year, same with India, and have stated directly that they'll keep doing so until at least 2030.

And because of all those inconvenient facts we both know all too well, I don't ever, even for one second, listen to anyone yapping about climate change. I know if all life in the US and EU ceased to exist, China and India would still be cranking that CO2 into the atmosphere and nobody would care.
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