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Old 01-23-2023, 03:52 PM
 
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I don't think Epstein was murdered.

Many people would like to think so, to them it makes perfect sense. It's makes for a great story, with intrigue and skullduggery, paying off guards to look the other way ... sneaking in ... "so predictable" they say.

But I look at it a different way.

The man basically grifted his way into becoming one of the world's richest men with an ego to match, he was a real self loving manipulative narcissist. He was the center of his own universe. Then he abused a lot of people, he used them like toys, he dehumanized them.

His downfall was absolutely humiliating, he had to look at himself the way he thought the world saw him.

I think he wanted to die.
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I don't think Epstein was murdered.

Many people would like to think so, to them it makes perfect sense. It's makes for a great story, with intrigue and skullduggery, paying off guards to look the other way ... sneaking in ... "so predictable" they say.

But I look at it a different way.

The man basically grifted his way into becoming one of the world's richest men with an ego to match, he was a real self loving manipulative narcissist. He was the center of his own universe. Then he abused a lot of people, he used them like toys, he dehumanized them.

His downfall was absolutely humiliating, he had to look at himself the way he thought the world saw him.

I think he wanted to die.
So you think that Epstein actually committed suicide while the three cameras watching him were conveniently not functioning and the guards were conveniently asleep? And let's not forget that the prison conveniently neglected to have a cellmate with him despite being required to do so.

In fact, there are so many "conveniences" surrounding Epstein's death that it reads like a movie script. But sure, go with suicide.
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:53 PM
 
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So you think that Epstein actually committed suicide while the three cameras watching him were conveniently not functioning and the guards were conveniently asleep? And let's not forget that the prison conveniently neglected to have a cellmate with him despite being required to do so.

In fact, there are so many "conveniences" surrounding Epstein's death that it reads like a movie script. But sure, go with suicide.
Spot on.
I think someone also heard struggling going on before he supposedly offed himself.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:02 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I don't think Epstein was murdered.

Many people would like to think so, to them it makes perfect sense. It's makes for a great story, with intrigue and skullduggery, paying off guards to look the other way ... sneaking in ... "so predictable" they say.

But I look at it a different way.

The man basically grifted his way into becoming one of the world's richest men with an ego to match, he was a real self loving manipulative narcissist. He was the center of his own universe. Then he abused a lot of people, he used them like toys, he dehumanized them.

His downfall was absolutely humiliating, he had to look at himself the way he thought the world saw him.

I think he wanted to die.
It's amazing.
You and I disagree on many things politically, but here we agree. It would have been impossible for someone to get into his cell and murder him, and no one did.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:06 PM
 
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She is still alive?
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:11 PM
 
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Because he was and deservedly so
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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Her and about 90% of the rest of us believe he was murdered.

She must have cut a deal not to talk about all the people who came to the island so she does not commit suicide also.
If I was say Clinton, Bush or high ranking visitor. I'd want her in a coffin deal or no deal. As long as she's breathing, she's a danger to them.
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Old 01-24-2023, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I think it's safe to say that the powers that be, made a sloppy job of his murder.

The prison guards never carried out proper checks and the security cameras were not working in what is supposed to be a high security remand unit.
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Old 01-24-2023, 07:07 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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She is still alive?
so far.

i wonder how long she would last if she suggested she might be about to drop epstein's list of clients onto the world..
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Old 01-24-2023, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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so far.

i wonder how long she would last if she suggested she might be about to drop epstein's list of clients onto the world..
That's not going to happen. If she was going to, she would have at the trial to get a lighter sentance.
What I would like to know is, why is this convicted, uncooperative person in prison granted the right to give interviews to the media?
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