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Old 03-17-2023, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Yes red states still vote for republicans but they don’t want womens rights to abortion taken away. This is a woman’s issue and has nothing to do with politics
Lol. If that were the case they wouldn’t vote for Republicans.

 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:24 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Except for those women who don't know they are pregnant until 10 or 15 weeks have passed. Why do so many men not know that happens?
Fifteen weeks is almost four months. Are you suggesting that a woman, who has been engaging in sexual intercourse, would miss two or three periods and not think something was amiss? Would the woman also not be showing signs of a "baby bump" by then, as well?

Please, I give women a lot more credit than that!
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:26 PM
 
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Lol. If that were the case they wouldn’t vote for Republicans.
You’re a man and obviously don’t know women.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Fifteen weeks is almost four months. Are you suggesting that a woman, who has been engaging in sexual intercourse, would miss two or three periods and not think something was amiss? Would the woman also not be showing signs of a "baby bump" by then, as well?

Please, I give women a lot more credit than that!
I am an example. I was never regular. It was not usual to go 3 months between periods. One stops counting days or weeks when living with irregular cycles. So yes, it could be a long time to realize one is pregnant.

Can I help you with any other female anatomy or processes?
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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You’re a man and obviously don’t know women.
Lol. My wife and many other women obviously don’t agree with you, either. You’re in denial and obviously don’t know that all women don’t think and do what you do. If they did they’d be pulling the D lever no matter what and wouldn’t be voting for Republicans.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Well, legalizing abortion harms the innocent fetus. It seems that, no matter how you or I discuss this, someone, be it the mother or child, is harmed. But, being that, in most cases, the mother had the choice to engage in sexual intercourse, and the child is always completely innocent, to me it is more important that harm should be spared from the child, as it did not have a say in its conception.
Then, don't get an abortion, if you think a microscopic zygote has a magical conception-soul, or whatever.

But leave all of the millions of Pro-choice people in Florida alone, to have their own views and make their own choices about it. Abortion should be a medical choice and an individual right, to safely have the procedure if needed. Just because some people are anti-choice Republicans, doesn't mean that you have to force that on everyone else, just because they happen to live in your state.

Quit pushing your Marxist socialism on a free country. Women are not your public property.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I am an example. I was never regular. It was not usual to go 3 months between periods. One stops counting days or weeks when living with irregular cycles. So yes, it could be a long time to realize one is pregnant.

Can I help you with any other female anatomy or processes?
Simple enough to take a pregnancy test.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:35 PM
 
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If he signs this bill in Florida, he has no chance of ever becoming President no matter who is running against him.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...orida-97919216


It's a fact that a majority of Americans do not support these types of extreme attacks on Woman.
5 weeks too long.
Once "attachment/implantation" occurs (which without, there is no chance for survival/growth)...there exists a unique, distinct, individual living human being...different from the Mother, the Father, anyone that has lived, or will ever live...and should have all the rights and protections under The Constitution.
That gestating human being is where it should be and how it should be...as was every person to ever exist at that point in their life. Completely normal & natural.
Unless there is a threat to the life of the Mother (creating a "self-defense" condition) that human being should be protected from being killed.
Use birth control, even morning after pill...though, understand that none protect 100%. But if you had consensual sex, and got pregnant as a result...you have imposed that gestating human beings' condition upon it...and you should be responsible for its care and protection from that point on.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:36 PM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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Did I, this person, exist in the 1600's? No, I didn't. My life as I know it essentially began at my birth, or around then. And of course it was all a gradual process. But we need to draw a line for legal purposes at some point, so I think it should be 24 weeks. We are not people, at any point before that. Saying that you can't get an abortion after 6 weeks is not protecting a person. It's controlling a person's autonomy.
Which person's autonomy is being controlled, the woman's or the fetus's? I would say both...

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Because there are stupid laws on the books in many states, that I definitely don't agree with? Did you expect me to defend that, or something? A fetus isn't a person, so logically should not be able to be murdered.
According to Merriam-Webster, murder is defined as "to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice". The law and science state that a fetus is a human being, so, therefore, according to the law and science, an abortion is the murder of a human being. Now, some states have laws that state that there is no criminal punishment for obtaining and receiving an abortion, but that does not abscond it from what science and Merriam-Webster state.
 
Old 03-17-2023, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Simple enough to take a pregnancy test.
No need for a pregnancy test if one doesn't suspect they are pregnant. And no, no woman is going to test every other day, just in case.
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