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Old 05-29-2008, 09:52 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I am not out of line. If you ask the questions, then expect truthful and honest answers. Flamboyant behavior, regardless of sexual orientation, race, gender, etc, is going to attract negative stares. When I see a guy walking down a street in public like a girl, I am automatically going to assume negative things about him. It is human nature. If I am served by a guy with an effeminate lisp at a restaurant, I am automatically going to make assumptions. This is how most people are. It is very valid and acceptable in our society, and personally I am glad people question such behavior instead of taking the liberal mindset to it. It should not be acceptable or smiled upon.

I have a gay cousin, and he isn't even close to acting how some homosexuals act.
Than I assume by your post that it is valid & acceptable for me to question what you may think is a completely normal heterosexual male or female because I think it is not acceptable & personally I do NOT smile upon it.

 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:53 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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What makes you think that being left handed is not normal?
Because it's not. LOL Most people are not left handed.

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Being left handed is not a disease. I sort of see what you are trying to say though. I just don't think it is a valid point. It is not a valid point because the child can still write, etc just like a right handed child.
And gays and lesbians can still get aroused and create offspring (and they do when they want kids).

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I am referring to a person being born gay as something that cannot do what it was designed to do, defective. We as people are designed to reproduce.

Just like birds, fish and any other animals and insects, plants etc.
Yeah, gays reproduce. Try again.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:54 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I am not against gays/ lesbians, but don't you think it is strange that sex between a same sex couple is done through non natural orifices of the human body to obtain pleasure? If it were natural wouldn't man through time evolved so it DID become so?
Have you ever had anal sex? I assure you, when you are prepared for it, it can be totally pleasurable.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Romeoville, IL
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Right, & it's perfectly fine for me, as a heterosexual, to think that thumb-necked testerone driven guys are not normal & disgusting for me. Because quite frankly, that is the norm of what I see nowadays. Must be something in the water.

As long as that norm is shared by a large portion of people, you have a right to it.

Norms, morals, etc are not relative. In a liberal world, everything is relative and can be questioned. I think that is a large problem in our country today.

Morals, norms, etc are usually absolutes, and aren't to be questioned. We all know what they are and why they are, but people want to change them anyway to suit their own perverted needs. Oh well.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:56 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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I am not saying we should get rid of gay people. I am not saying that we are supposed to reproduce. All I am saying that being gay is a birth defect that we have come to accept.

Why is this so hard for people to grasp?
The standard you are applying to designate homosexuality as a defect/disease applies to left-handedness fully as well. Unless you are ready to call the latter a defect, reconsider your "logic" regarding the former.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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Originally Posted by TwiloMike View Post
Is there a cure in the works for left-handedness? That **** is just weird.


Gays and lesbians are designed to reproduce... and they do. Perhaps you haven't met gay parents?


Just did. See above.
A same sex couple COULD reproduce, but they would need to enlist the help of outside sources to do so such as sperm donors or such. I do know several same sex couples that have kids and I think they do a great job as parents, this I do not have a problem with. The problem I have is a certain portion (several notorious posters on this thread) think that those who are hetero are evil and sex should only be for fun. I don't think those "people" have a grasp on reality.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:58 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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As long as that norm is shared by a large portion of people, you have a right to it.

Norms, morals, etc are not relative. In a liberal world, everything is relative and can be questioned. I think that is a large problem in our country today.

Morals, norms, etc are usually absolutes, and aren't to be questioned. We all know what they are and why they are, but people want to change them anyway to suit their own perverted needs. Oh well.
Really? If they weren't to be questioned & they were absolutes, then why are so many people questioning them? Morals,schmorals....I have morals & I also know that what really counts is treating fellow human beings like people...not things, not diseases, not abnormalities that need to be "cured"....it's called respect my fellow human being. And not enough people seem to understand that word anymore.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:59 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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We are designed to reproduce and as a society almost everything we see on TV and the internet has to do with Sex.

Examples:
  • Make up commercials for women to be "pretty" and "beautiful" all the time.
  • Weight loss commercials
  • Porn videos
  • Men driving nice 2 seater sports cars, why? To attract the girls.
  • Cologne and Perfume ads in magazines
  • The movies are a big influence...
Its natural to have sex. But what is the purpose of sex? To reproduce right? And why? Because we were designed for that.
The purpose of sex is to reproduce, to experience and deliver pleasure, to bond with your mate(s), etc. There are many purposes for sex. Gays are certainly not lacking in the having of sex department.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 09:59 PM
 
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A same sex couple COULD reproduce, but they would need to enlist the help of outside sources to do so such as sperm donors or such. I do know several same sex couples that have kids and I think they do a great job as parents, this I do not have a problem with. The problem I have is a certain portion (several notorious posters on this thread) think that those who are hetero are evil and sex should only be for fun. I don't think those "people" have a grasp on reality.
Actually, sex IS fun....where have you been? To think of sex as just something to have once just to produce a baby? Weird. No wonder so many people have affairs.
 
Old 05-29-2008, 10:03 PM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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Gay people are still people and should be respected. Thats not what I am trying to say.

I am trying to say that a man wanting to have sex with another man is not normal. It may be fun and all that for them to do, sure. The love between them is there and all that is fine. No issues there.

What I am saying is that is is a disease or a disorder. It is not normal, it just so happens its accepted in society now.

Are you all saying that you absolutely dont agree?
Left handedness is now accepted but at one time people were burned at the stake for it. Left handedness is not normal. The ability to write and perform tasks still exists and that's fine. That said, it is not a normal trait (as in, most people are not left handed). By your logic it is a disease or a disorder.
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