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California is already pushing for everyone absolutely having only EVs. They also just passed a law to do away with diesel big rigs, starting next year.
And.....they also say there isn't enough electric power for us to use our air conditioners in the summer.
Somewhat of a disconnect?
To the OP--where does the "throwing smoke" come from? I haven't seen a car emit pretty much anything in 20 or more years.
Yes, California is pushing legislation to stop selling gas cars by 2035. They’re Pushing to require 35% of all new cars sold by 2026 must be EV. Supposedly feds have to sign off before this can become mandatory. Of course state officials haven’t figured out how they’ll handle the massive increase in electricity usage. Good luck getting the nearly 7 million apartment dwellers parking spaces wired for electricity. That’s not including condominiums.
Correct. Unlimited in what can happen. For example, late on the monthly payment? The car drives itself back to the dealer or shares its location. Speeding? One could receive a ticket in the mail with all that speeding data conveniently provided for you to view. A major crime or even a minor crime committed? You're iPad of a car was in the vicinity..Sky is the limit, a dream for a fascist government.
^And, don't think you can just ditch your car and ride a bike or walk. They are fitting bikes now with electronics for tracking, and, that neat "fit watch" from Apple, well, not only can it monitor your pulse and heart rate and count how many steps you take, but they can eventually use it to know where you are at all times. And one day, it will go from a watch to a mandatory chip implant. It's coming. The Bible warned us that there will come a time when we will have to have a mark on the hand or head in order to buy food. Funny how that little book was able to see 2000 years into the future.
Yes, California is pushing legislation to stop selling gas cars by 2035. They’re Pushing to require 35% of all new cars sold by 2026 must be EV. Supposedly feds have to sign off before this can become mandatory. Of course state officials haven’t figured out how they’ll handle the massive increase in electricity usage. Good luck getting the nearly 7 million apartment dwellers parking spaces wired for electricity. That’s not including condominiums.
Apartment dwellers are part of the poor class Warhorse was talking about. They won't need cars. They will be shipped in via train to serve the wealthy.
They'll do what they always do, tell you that you have the "freedom" to drive whatever you want, but make it financially unpalatable to do so primarily through exorbitant fees and taxes but also using social pressure on the corporate automotive world to simply stop selling gasoline powered vehicles or producing parts for older ones. The people that run these companies attend the same cocktail parties and swing in the same social circles as our champagne socialist elite. You can say you are going to keep your gas powered vehicle forever, but cars wear out, even the best ones, and there are around 6 million traffic crashes each year so without a resupply the number of gas vehicles on the road will drop pretty quickly over the first decade or so.
The good news for the elites, is that a small amount of high grade gasoline will continue to be produced for "historically significant" vehicles and the air cooled 911's will still blitz Mulholland drive. Yay progress!
If there is a way to take money away from people, that WILL be done. Fines, taxes, fees, what not. Always for the best of the children and to help homeless. Save the planet. It has always been like this.
LOL....this is what watching too much propaganda makes you think.
Horse and buggys didn't cause climate change.
EVs are already better and they are improving at almost double the rate of gasoline engines.
Gasoline engines are not efficient and waste lot of energy. Also you need too many gas stations while EVs can be charged 90% at home and charging stations can be anywhere.....need lesser number of dedicated stations.
Existing parking lots can be converted into charging stations.
Range is currently in 300--400 miles range and this is going to increase to 500-600 with Solid state and other battery improvements.
The old generation is ..... old....have old views ...which need to go away.
The next generation would be thankful for putting restrictions on ICE.
Keep believing the propaganda
ICE's didn't cause climate change either.
Actually the average range of an EV today is about 250 Miles. If you are lucky and get a long-range EV you might get 400 Miles.
As for chargers. Five years before Califoria's mandate, by 2030 we will need about 1.2 Million Chargers in addition to all of the people charging at home. The State has only about 80,000 chargers. By comparison, there are currently only about 8,000 Gas Stations in the State that handles all of our needs. Where do you think all of this electricity will come from?
Weird they'd use a Korean War era jet for a 2011 movie.
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April Fool's Day Joke...right?
Yea, just what the US needs right now the 2nd largest lithium deposit controlled by Iran. No worries, I am sure that Biden would gladly trade a few ICBMs for access to it.
Of course, the people that said cars would never take off didn't have the Government banning the Horse and Buggy. So it's not exactly a case of EVs taking off because they are better, more like the Government is saying EVs must be used because we say so.
I can just about guarantee that if the Government wasn't forcing the hand of these companies and bribing consumers to buy them, the EV's would be a fraction of what they are today and that is still only a fraction of the cars being sold.
LOL....this is what watching too much propaganda makes you think.
Horse and buggys didn't cause climate change.
EVs are already better and they are improving at almost double the rate of gasoline engines.
Gasoline engines are not efficient and waste lot of energy. Also you need too many gas stations while EVs can be charged 90% at home and charging stations can be anywhere.....need lesser number of dedicated stations.
Existing parking lots can be converted into charging stations.
Range is currently in 300--400 miles range and this is going to increase to 500-600 with Solid state and other battery improvements.
The old generation is ..... old....have old views ...which need to go away.
The next generation would be thankful for putting restrictions on ICE.
You sound like an ageist. The “old” generation as you put it is a bit smarter than you give them credit for (and I am not in that generation). Your view of EVs is a bit rainbows and unicorn yet. Unless some massive improvements happen, It will be a long time before EVs realistically have the ranges you mention. Plus, there are millions of people who live in homes that will have no charging stations (e.g., apartments, condos, townhomes etc.). This says nothing of when needing to tow. Tests have shown ranges go WAY down. EVs will not be taking over ICE anytime soon.
It has somehow become ok to throw smoke at other people/kids faces by driving gasoline vehicles.
Once EVs become the norm, the habit of people smoking harmful emissions would be broken.
This should lead to further pressure on non ev drivers.
EV tech is improving at a rapid pace. Solid State batteries would be a game changer.
The people who said cars would never take off and horse carriages would always be around are the same kind of people supporting gasoline vehicles now.
Automakers aren't investing into gasoine engine improvements anymore, they are diverting everything(Money, focus, R&D resources etc) into EV divisions.
Go drive a plugin hybrid or an EV .... instant torque is amazing!
To those silly people who say that there isn't enough Lithium
Will the smoke the coal plant across the river belches on me in order to power your EV also be subject to such fines?
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The “old” generation as you put it is a bit smarter than you give them credit for (and I am not in that generation). Your view of EVs is a bit rainbows and unicorn yet. Unless some massive improvements happen, It will be a long time before EVs realistically have the ranges you mention. Plus, there are millions of people who live in homes that will have no charging stations (e.g., apartments, condos, townhomes etc.). This says nothing of when needing to tow. Tests have shown ranges go WAY down. EVs will not be taking over ICE anytime soon.
