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Old 04-06-2023, 08:27 AM
 
Location: NYC
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You just can't do that. The shooter could be facing murder charges and be going away for life over a truck. If he does avoid prison he is going to be bankrupt defending himself.

These guys should have blocked the truck in and not engaged the suspected criminal. That is the cops job.
At face value I agree. This dude could be in big trouble.



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noting it seems the men did not wait for police to arrive before intervening. He said the one who confronted the man inside the truck claims he saw a weapon before shooting his own gun into the truck.
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Police are still investigating whether the man in the truck actually had a weapon, which could influence whether the man who shot and killed him faces charges
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The alleged truck thief, who police described as a Hispanic man in his 30s, was later pronounced dead.
They found them in a shopping mall parking lot. They totally should have waited for police to arrive.
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:28 AM
 
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You just can't do that. The shooter could be facing murder charges and be going away for life over a truck. If he does avoid prison he is going to be bankrupt defending himself.



I can't stand criminals because they often prey on innocent people but did the guy deserve to be shot dead for stealing the truck? Was the guy in the truck even the one that stole it?



It is sad to say this but if this guy was Black and not Brown would we see the Biden DOJ jumping on this and calling it a Hate crime?

This case is very similar to the one where the white guys chased down a black guy to question him about thievery in their neighborhood. The suspect went for the gun and he was shot. All involved are now in prison.


These guys should have blocked the truck in and not engaged the suspected criminal. That is the cops job.
As much as I want to disagree with you, I can't. You are correct. One can't just hunt down a thug and kill them, legally.

That being said, that particular criminal will never steal something again. Being a thug is a high risk occupation.
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Old 04-06-2023, 08:40 AM
 
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One less thief in the world -- don't act like that's a bad thing!
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:17 AM
 
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One less thief in the world -- don't act like that's a bad thing!
I dont think anyone is arguing that. Just the repercussions for the person doing the shooting. I think we realistically need more details before giving it the blanket ok.
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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Originally Posted by Cape Cod Todd View Post
You just can't do that. The shooter could be facing murder charges and be going away for life over a truck. If he does avoid prison he is going to be bankrupt defending himself.



I can't stand criminals because they often prey on innocent people but did the guy deserve to be shot dead for stealing the truck? Was the guy in the truck even the one that stole it?



It is sad to say this but if this guy was Black and not Brown would we see the Biden DOJ jumping on this and calling it a Hate crime?

This case is very similar to the one where the white guys chased down a black guy to question him about thievery in their neighborhood. The suspect went for the gun and he was shot. All involved are now in prison.


These guys should have blocked the truck in and not engaged the suspected criminal. That is the cops job.
not being an atty...and with scant deep facts, I imagine it like this:


Its texas, so the guy was armed, they ALL are. In fact I think its state law ;-) no foul here



His tracking device said his property was at some location he was not, he wanted his property, so he went to it - this is legal in ALL cases, even if the property was moved without his permission to that location - he can at all times access it. no foul here


He confronted someone in or around his truck and asserted his right to claim it and take it no foul here.


NOW, something happened, such that weapons came out, fire was exchanged.


from the story I read, is the owner of the truck even charged?


I dont know about ALL states, but many do not allow the use of deadly force to PROTECT property, not at your own location. some (like CT) have (or had) a duty to retreat such that in some cases you have to flee and attacker in your house. Texas, is not one of them. the perps death has been ruled a homicide, but texas allows intentional, negligent and justifiable tags to be added.


Im not all that sypathetic to blatant criminals. shot, hung AND sent to the russian front is a-ok with me (I show my age with the reference)
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:38 AM
 
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The theif died doing what he loved. I like stories with happy endings. Thanks OP!
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:41 AM
 
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Being a criminal isn’t good for your health.

Any charges need to be dropped, he saved taxpayers a lot of money.
I’m hopeful the gentleman who shot the thief will be charged with murder. I’m more than happy for my tax dollars to support this individual’s stay in one of Texas’ prisons for a very extended stay.
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I can't feel sorry for someone that steals another person's property.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...-1541512262291
I can't say I feel much pity, I'd rather the thief was only wounded, but we have enough filth on our streets as it is. If more carjackers were shot, there would be a lot fewer carjackings.
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Old 04-06-2023, 11:57 AM
 
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It might very well have been "self-defense" in something similar to this: The owner tracks down the truck and is about to get in it and drive it away when the thief accosts him. The owner tries to explain that the truck belongs to him, but the thief reaches into his pocket as if to pull a weapon, whereupon the owner pulls his own weapon and fires in self-defense killing the thief.

The fact that the thief wasn't carrying a weapon is irrelevant because there is no way for the truck owner to know that beforehand. If the owner had waited to see a gun pointed at him, then he would have waited too long to save his own life because the reaction time required for the truck owner to pull a gun and fire it is longer than it takes for the thief to pull the trigger on the gun he has in his hand pointed at the truck owner's chest.
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Old 04-06-2023, 12:11 PM
 
Location: The South
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Maybe its a good learning moment for future criminals in Texas and other states.
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