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Old 06-29-2023, 05:12 PM
 
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Kansas City's mass transit loses money every year, so they expanded it so it could lose more money.
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:26 PM
 
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The city leaders won't ditch their cars. We already know that.

I wonder how that will be received in the winter time...
Just ride your bike in -25F weather to prevent Global Warming!
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:28 PM
 
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Transit actually should not be for-profit. That’s the point of it being public. It’s only to serve, not to profit.


Public Transit was better, cheaper and profitable when it was run by the private sector. Many of our legacy transit systems that operate today, began as private for profit.
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Democrats always tell me that they are -not- actively trying to get people out of their cars. What gives?!
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:29 PM
 
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NYC probably has the best mass transit system and their mass transit share is only 56%.
Minneapolis sits at 12%.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/C...acs/acs-48.pdf
And NYC has the longest commute times in the nation! Their mass transit is so good, that it requires the most time to move people around.
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:39 PM
 
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Campaign aims to persuade Minneapolis drivers to leave the car at home

In seven years, Minneapolis transportation planners want 60% of trips in the city taken on public transit, or made by biking, walking or rolling.

Did anyone really think that the only reason we have all of these governments banning ICEs that it was so people would be forced into EVs?

The Progressive agenda doesn't want any sort of private transportation. That is something they will want to be limited to the elites.

Once they can limit the movement of people, it makes it easier to limit other items.
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:41 PM
 
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Did anyone really think that the only reason we have all of these governments banning ICEs that it was so people would be forced into EVs?

The Progressive agenda doesn't want any sort of private transportation. That is something they will want to be limited to the elites.

Once they can limit the movement of people, it makes it easier to limit other items.
It'll be easier to force people to live in Commie Blocks, next to a street with a tram. Just like what the communists did in Soviet Russia.
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Old 06-29-2023, 07:15 PM
 
Location: moved
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I love cars, I just don’t want them to be the only viable means of getting around. And I’m mainly speaking for major cities. Not suburbs.
Cars were the inevitable consequence of detached single-family houses. Modern Americans may be ambivalent about cars, but the preponderance of voices do prefer the SFH to the condo or the rowhouse, let alone to the apartment. There just isn’t a practical way to connect houses on quarter-acre lots with public transportation or biking. It can be done around the margin, and the biking-thing might work for particularly healthy and robust people. But if we’re going to age-in-place in our traditional detached houses, we’re probably going to stop walking and biking before we stop driving.

For city-centers, sure, there might be satellite parking with inner car-free zones during business hours. Maybe also for the inner 3-4 blocks of a traditional town.. the area around the courthouse, library, post office and so on. But the supermarket will still have to be accessed via private cars. This is true even in Europe. Ikea may be served by buses, but almost certainly, the majority of customer arrive and depart by car.

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Did anyone really think that the only reason we have all of these governments banning ICEs that it was so people would be forced into EVs?

The Progressive agenda doesn't want any sort of private transportation. That is something they will want to be limited to the elites.
There is definitely an animosity to private transportation. In the video quoted above, there's a blurb where the speaker decries self-driving EVs as another bad idea. So the emphasis isn't really on clean air, energy efficiency/independence, eliminating road-rage or vehicular fatalities... but on "walkable cities"... because evidently the only honorable and upstanding (pun intended) thing to do, is to walk.
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Old 06-29-2023, 07:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Great topic, I wrote about this in another thread earlier today about the push on green energy and EV's.

If you read the socialist Governor of New Jersey, Master Energy Plan in NJ he wants the entire state to be converted to wind energy where the state will control all energy. Phase II is to move everyone onto EV's by 2035, and if you read the next paragraph down Phase III is make electricity so expensive to force the populous onto Public Transportation before 2050.

Its all written down on paper and published.
Sounds great, but there is minimal public transportation in NJ.

Just waiting for the next Revolution to start.
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Old 06-30-2023, 04:30 AM
 
Location: MN
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They’ve already been slowly implementing this. Turned a street I do business on from two way traffic to now one way one lane and other lane is a two way bike lane. Mpls ranks near top in bicycle usage nationwide, they also plow the bike lane on said street before the vehicle lane. I’m in Mpls weekly and it isn’t really noticeable in big picture of things, I don’t think it’s anything world ending like some will say on here.
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