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I can't imagine working with someone that you had to take to court in order to force them to work for you. It is not going to be a happy time and you certainly will not receive their best efforts.
Now that's true. What if "forced" why can't the person performing the marriage make a statement of strong opposition? Wouldn't that be 1st Amendment Rights?
2. She's not making an artistic expression in performing a civil ceremony.
If she does not want to be a judge then she should resign.
Agreed. Those were the reasons given for the decision on the web designer. Since none apply, do your job or be fired. Some say just have another judge, but what happens when there are no judges within 100 miles who will do their job? So no, if you’re a judge or in some States a court clerk who has “perform civil ceremonies” on your job description, do your job. If you don’t, you should be immediately fired.
I was thinking the same. Why would anyone want a cake, a website, a marriage or anything made or performed by someone that doesn't want to do it?
It shouldn't be that difficult to find someone that would be happy to bake you a cake, design a website or marry you.
I can't imagine working with someone that you had to take to court in order to force them to work for you. It is not going to be a happy time and you certainly will not receive their best efforts.
We are talking about a public servant who does not want to perform the duties of their job, unless they are in agreement with the dynamics of the couple. So, are you expecting the couple to work around and accommodate a public servant?
In a religious venue, I agree, but otherwise, you serve the customer. I live in KS, and many here feel they have a God-given right to discriminate as they please.
Again, this thread is about a public servant that does not want to perform marriage ceremonies as a public servant, unless he/she agrees with the dynamics of the couple.
We have enough "snowflakes" on the liberal side who feel they are an exception to the rules!
Now that's true. What if "forced" why can't the person performing the marriage make a statement of strong opposition? Wouldn't that be 1st Amendment Rights?
Yes. Government employees though have limits on their free speech activities while performing their functions. At church on a Sunday she can say whatever she wants. While sitting on the bench during working hours acting in the capacity of a public employee.. not so much.
If your performing a marriage at a court house then GOD and Religion are not a factor, you're just there to rubber stamp a paper for two consenting adults.
If the Judge has to appear at a Church then that is different but people getting married at the Courthouse are only there to compete a LEGAL proceeding with the State, that is it.
Job descriptions change over time, as do the duties of a particular job. So one decides which is more important, their job or their faith.
Not everyone follows your "Bible". Your God must be the angry one, mine God is not. I follow the Golden Rule, yeah, it isn't talked about too much by Christians today:
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is a biblical concept spoken by Jesus in Luke 6:31 and Matthew 7:12; it is commonly referred to as the "Golden Rule." "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets" (Matthew 7:12). "Do to others as you would have them do to you" (Luke 6:31).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
You talk about Bible Quotes and you are trying to say that your God is different? Those Verses are from the Bible of my God.
Now to clear things up and not "twist" anything around, read Romans 1: 24-27 in the New Testament. There you will see it written plain, simple and clear and nothing can be taken away from that.
Yes. Government employees though have limits on their free speech activities while performing their functions. At church on a Sunday she can say whatever she wants. While sitting on the bench during working hours acting in the capacity of a public employee.. not so much.
You may be very well correct, but I wouldn't mind seeing those requirements in writing.
Is gay marriage legal? If so, perform the marriage or resign as a judge, ya petty little bigot.
A JP in Texas isn't required to perform marriages. That oughta be the end of the story.
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