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Nancy Pelosi broke the law changing the rules days before the election. Pence did not do the righteous thing. He supported the illegal actions of Nancy Pelosi.
I don't know what law you are talking about that Pelosi broke. But the fact is the vice president doesn't have the authority to interfere in the counting of the electoral vote. Pence was following our constitution.
I've only read the first few pages of the thread so far, but the mental gymnastics that some Trump supporters put themselves though to give Trump a pass are already amazing.
Pence is the typical Republican Party career politician that has no chance of winning jack, the Jeb Bush type. Conservatives nor liberals like him. He’s one of the most insignificant politicians around today and his political career is over. But he still bends over for the GOP.
His moral code isn’t as poor as his shoe size IQ. Just another corrupt Republican in the RINO party. The party never liked or wanted Trump. The people did. Perhaps dem voters can learn something from Trump.
If I was a dem voter I’d probably vote for RFK Jr. But the dem party despises him because he’s no where near left/socialist/Marxist enough for them. Fact is they are lynching him now for speaking out against this garbage admin and the rotten establishment.
There are those that won’t not vote for Trump and there are those that won’t vote for Trump, hate his guts, and lie about him every chance they get. The mindless demented TDS cult along with this corrupt scum admin and their witch hunts.
The reaction to that cult was most evident the tight Trump won his first election. The screaming and crying of Hillary supporters and the media in shock.
The most entertaining election ever. Every tear and scream from the left put a smile on my face.
Except some of we Trump critics loved that he beat Hillary.
Hilarious. Lilly White pure as the driven snow Mike Pence 'gone to the dark side'...
while angelic little Trump flies around with his angel wings and halo?
Just no.
I would trust Mike Pence a million times more than I would ever trust Donald Trump. Period.
Classic Trump. If someone doesn't agree to break the law for you, smear 'em.
Mike Pence had just as much to gain (if not more) by refusing to certify the electoral college vote on January 6 as Trump did.
Yet Mike Pence was told by his WH lawyers (as Trump was) that doing so would be UnConstitutional.
Mike Pence did the right thing -- the ONLY thing he could legally do -- and upheld the Constitution.
He has given testimony under oath twice about the events leading up to and on January 6th, as have dozens of other Republicans, many of whom Trump appointed himself and who ALL wanted to see Trump be re-elected.
He will testify under oath again at Trump's criminal trial.
Being a good Christian, I'm pretty sure that Mike Pence takes testifying under oath seriously and will only tell the truth about what he knows. Otherwise, he will literally be breaking one of God's commandments, not to mention avoiding perjury.
I wish him well.
Trump has also been invited to testify under oath many times, including by the Grand Jury that indicted him. He's turned ALL of those opportunities down and has never testified under oath regarding January 6th. He will have every opportunity to testify under oath at his trial as well.
It's easy to say anything you want on Truth Social and at rallies (and the First Amendment guarantees your right to do so).
Definitely harder for some people to tell the truth about what happened under oath in a courtroom or under oath before Congress or under oath before a Grand Jury when given the opportunity to do so.
I've always worked on the assumption that if someone is not willing to take an oath to tell the truth, their words don't mean as much as the words of someone who has no problem with swearing that they'll tell the "whole truth and nothing but the truth."
But perhaps I'm odd that way.
The bolded is getting harder for him if he wants to stay on the right side of various judges.
Pence did not fight against the corruption.
Many Born again Christians say it's shameful for him to say he's born again.
And yet you voted for the guy at the top of the ticket who, by his own admission (and kudos to Trump for being honest about it), has never asked god for forgiveness.
Stupid question. I also voted for Bush. He then showed his true colors. There are those that voted for Biden that wouldn’t vote for him again. You have a problem with that?
Are you suggesting because you voted for a guy you should always stick with him? Pence had no problem becoming Trump’s VP. But he is an establishment Republican. Now he is showing his true colors. The Dem party is scum but the Republican Party also has scum. They need to be dealt with.
Trump points out the corrupt trash from both parties.
The shills and clowns that bash Trump rarely point out the destruction this POS admin is putting Americans though.
The average American was much better off under Trump in so many ways it can’t be refuted nor do those that bash Trump even try because they have nothing.
Why don’t you compare the two right now? Go ahead. Compare policy and accomplishments along with cognitive ability between the Trump admin and the Biden Admin. I dare you.
I believe TDS are simply miserable people that haven’t accomplished much in life and you know misery loves company plus as bad as the admin they voted for are doing and the fact they are jealous of Trump and have no one on the dem side worth voting for other than perhaps RFK which this admin hates. He’s not far enough to the left for them. I kinda feel sorry for dem voters.
Not really. :-)
Except a number of Trump critics aren't Democrats and would never vote for Biden in a million years.
I've never been one to believe that voting for an obvious looser or not voting at all is better than voting for a candidate that has a chance of winning. Throwing away a vote is never the best choice, because it simply abdicates the election to those who will choose from the more likely winning candidates. Throwing away a vote just gives the side you least prefer a more likely chance of winning.
Would be nice if Trump didn't end up to be one of those choices in any case, because the Constitution seems to make fairly clear, he shouldn't be...
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:​
"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."
Likelihood of winning shouldn't be anyone's primary concern.
Making the most moral choice (in and of itself, regardless of effect) should be one's primary concern.
Additionally, any individual vote/vote considered individually is only going to make a material difference if the voter lives in a swing state.
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