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Old 09-10-2023, 06:22 AM
 
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The list includes the Clinton's, Obamas, Newsome, Biden's etc.

Typical Democrat politicians who don't want their families to struggle with the same problems they force on the public who can't afford better.
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Old 09-10-2023, 06:31 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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"Rules for thee, but not for me." -- Liberals' mantra

Same with gun laws: they want their body guards to have them but not us.

Same with fences: they wan them around their homes, but not our country.

Same with global warming: they want their SUV motorcade and private jet planes to carry them around, but not us.

Same with abortion: they don't kill their own children, but they want us to.

Etc.
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Old 09-10-2023, 06:57 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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The list includes the Clinton's, Obamas, Newsome, Biden's etc.

Typical Democrat politicians who don't want their families to struggle with the same problems they force on the public who can't afford better.
All your examples are people that paid for the option themselves unlike school choice advocates who want public dollars given to them. You can add Virginias GOP Governor Youngkin who is pay $36k a year for his child and didn't he run on parents rights in Public Education....

The Florida vouchers are already being used for things other than education, what a surprise. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...278868324.html
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Old 09-10-2023, 07:10 AM
 
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All your examples are people that paid for the option themselves unlike school choice advocates who want public dollars given to them. You can add Virginias GOP Governor Youngkin who is pay $36k a year for his child and didn't he run on parents rights in Public Education....

The Florida vouchers are already being used for things other than education, what a surprise. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...278868324.html
This ^^^

If a parent wants to send their kid to a private religious school, they should go for it. But the should not expect the taxpayer to foot the bill.

If a child has a special education need that cannot be addressed at their local public school, tuition at the private school works for me. But that private specialty school such as those that teach dyslexic kids the to read sound reasonable. Those privates getting tax money need annual audits. A couple times a years we in Houston learn about Charter schools using state money to buy planes or pay relatives of the minister huge sums for serving on the board.
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Old 09-10-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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All your examples are people that paid for the option themselves unlike school choice advocates who want public dollars given to them. The Florida vouchers are already being used for things other than education, what a surprise.
To be fair, the voucher program is still cheaper than public schools. Homeschooling is practically free in comparison.

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If a parent wants to send their kid to a private religious school, they should go for it. But the should not expect the taxpayer to foot the bill.
The taxpayer is already footing the bill for education. The state of Florida averages about $10k per-pupil for K-12. Which means the $8,000 voucher saves the taxpayer about 20%.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...nding-by-state

The national average for K-12 is about $12.6k a year, and for New York state it is $25k per year. The objection to the voucher program is not about government spending(which would be lower under the voucher program). Leftists are just angry because they can't indoctrinate children in government schools. They know if people were given a choice, no one would choose their indoctrination centers.
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Old 09-10-2023, 10:33 AM
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To be fair, the voucher program is still cheaper than public schools. Homeschooling is practically free in comparison.



The taxpayer is already footing the bill for education. The state of Florida averages about $10k per-pupil for K-12. Which means the $8,000 voucher saves the taxpayer about 20%.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...nding-by-state

The national average for K-12 is about $12.6k a year, and for New York state it is $25k per year. The objection to the voucher program is not about government spending(which would be lower under the voucher program). Leftists are just angry because they can't indoctrinate children in government schools. They know if people were given a choice, no one would choose their indoctrination centers.
So the cost savings justifies the graft, as the linked article states and homeschooling is a personal choice not a panacea for all the perceived ills of public education. Lets not use NY as an example, they are being strangled by their Teacher Unions which are taxing authorities and abusive we could have a very lengthy discussion on it.

The taxpayer is footing the bill for many things including the mounting legal bills that the Florida Governor is racking up with his vendettas against free speech and elected officials....

Please get off this "indoctrination" rhetoric because schools teach many things and its only become an issue because the far right is pushing the narrative. The new fear is my child will be taught, read, told or exposed to something that I as a parent don't like, oh well then raise them in an echo chamber and don't be surprised when they finally are exposed to the real world and go into shock.....
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Old 09-10-2023, 10:56 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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You can add Virginias GOP Governor Youngkin who is pay $36k a year for his child and didn't he run on parents rights in Public Education....
Youngkin wants Parental Rights for parents who "want" to send their kids to Public Schools.

He is governing just like a great governor should.
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Old 09-10-2023, 11:13 AM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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This ^^^

If a parent wants to send their kid to a private religious school, they should go for it. But the should not expect the taxpayer to foot the bill.

If a child has a special education need that cannot be addressed at their local public school, tuition at the private school works for me. But that private specialty school such as those that teach dyslexic kids the to read sound reasonable. Those privates getting tax money need annual audits. A couple times a years we in Houston learn about Charter schools using state money to buy planes or pay relatives of the minister huge sums for serving on the board.
The taxpayer shouldn't have to foot the bill for anyone's kid. You want to have kids, you should pay for their education. Especially the current public school system, which is filled with Marxist activists who are more interested in indoctrinating kids than educating them.

If the teachers are any good, they can get jobs in the private sector tutoring kids. Defund public schools.
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Old 09-10-2023, 11:27 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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All your examples are people that paid for the option themselves unlike school choice advocates who want public dollars given to them. You can add Virginias GOP Governor Youngkin who is pay $36k a year for his child and didn't he run on parents rights in Public Education....

The Florida vouchers are already being used for things other than education, what a surprise. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...278868324.html
Oh please, this issue really has nothing to do with taxpayer money. The same people complaining about tax payer money going to charter schools have no problem with wasting billions of tax dollars on non-citizens illegally coming into the county and into the schools.

This is really about the teachers union trying to shut down any competition or educational options for families to their public-school monopolies.
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Old 09-10-2023, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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When a drag queen is a principal of a school , it's about time that parents have school choice.
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