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Old 09-27-2023, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Walls don't work. Especially the vaunted Trump walls that were easily cut or bypassed.
Rubber bullets work, when shot into the Coyotes making Billions in human smuggling...why don't we do that?
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:20 PM
 
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The only effective way to stop the invasion is shoot them.
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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IMO, when the wall goes up the coyotes will find another way to get in. When they can make more money smuggling people than drugs it's a good business for them. And there are property owners on the border who say the wall impedes their ability to make a living. They need to have a fair resolution.

The USA needs to figure out a way to stop people from wanting to come badly enough to incur thousands in debt to smugglers.

Any ideas? I'd round up people who have been working here for years and send them packing. And have lots of publicity.

IIRC, POTUS Trump did once have social security notify people when their number was being used on another job. If someone was using my number I'd sure want to know it. Who really looks at those annual SS reports?
My solution:

tell all the invaders they can come in, so long as they agree to live in a big city that the Dems destroyed for their first 20 years of U.S. residency....NYC, Philly, DC, Detroit, San Fran, LA, Chicago, Oakland, Baltimore, ect..
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:38 PM
 
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Much of this BS that Trump's walls were breached thousands of times is nothing but lies from leftist sources. One incident that was cited where several illegals died in a car wreck they had gotten through an inferior fence on the border. It wasn't Trump's wall and as I said there are tunnel sensors under Trump's walls to.

No one has cut a hole in the Trump's wall and escaped into our country successfully. The Border Patrol has been right there to apprehend them before that happened.

Is Trump's wall 100% successful in deterring illegal entry? Of course not but 90% isn't good enough?

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:44 PM
 
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So you leave your house unlocked at all times?
Did you build a wall around your house expecting no criminal could get over it? How much did your ineffective wall cost you? How much did it cost your neighbors?
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Old 09-27-2023, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Did you build a wall around your house expecting no criminal could get over it? How much did your ineffective wall cost you? How much did it cost your neighbors?
Depends on your “neighbor”.

If your neighbors like to jump over into your property without your permission to steal your crap, then yeah I would get a fence/wall, motion sensors cameras, and a big dog.
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Old 09-27-2023, 07:10 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Depends on your “neighbor”.

If your neighbors like to jump over into your property without your permission to steal your crap, then yeah I would get a fence/wall, motion sensors cameras, and a big dog.
If the motion sensor cameras and the big dog works, would you still go the added expense of a fence/wall?
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Old 09-27-2023, 07:37 PM
 
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Much of this BS that Trump's walls were breached thousands of times is nothing but lies from leftist sources. One incident that was cited where several illegals died in a car wreck they had gotten through an inferior fence on the border. It wasn't Trump's wall and as I said there are tunnel sensors under Trump's walls to.

No one has cut a hole in the Trump's wall and escaped into our country successfully. The Border Patrol has been right there to apprehend them before that happened.

Is Trump's wall 100% successful in deterring illegal entry? Of course not but 90% isn't good enough?

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/12/12/walls-work
There is no way of knowing how many people breached the wall and escaped into the interior. There is no way that CBP responded to every breach, since the didn't know about most of them.

The content of your link came from Trump's press office. It's opinion, not fact.
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Old 09-27-2023, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Cali
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If the motion sensor cameras and the big dog works, would you still go the added expense of a fence/wall?
Of course I would.

Security & safety of my family are priceless
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Old 09-27-2023, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Did you build a wall around your house expecting no criminal could get over it? How much did your ineffective wall cost you? How much did it cost your neighbors?
No, I built a fence around my house to let people know they aren’t welcome. If they choose to enter my property anyway, more stringent measures will be taken. I don’t rely on a single security measure for my family and property, but I don’t dismiss out of hand measures that help to increase security.
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