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Old 10-03-2023, 08:37 AM
 
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I live in a 90% white neighborhood. Over the summer, some inconsiderate neighbor a few blocks away decided to have weekly Saturday get togethers. The music was so loud and the bass was so deep, I felt like I was inside an EDM club. Black rap music chock full of the N word was blasting out loud. You know, if they can play it, we should be able to say it. They need to stop complaining about the n word.

That music disrupted everyone’s day. I was blocks away and it was so loud, I couldn’t hear the tv in my own house. How friggin loud do you need the music to be, I think it was a white family but those kids love that crappy disgusting rap music that seem to need to be full of expletives. These inconsiderate types of people need to rent a hall and not subject the entire neighborhood to be forced to listen to their music. When neighbors complain and try to stop them, they better be ready to shut it down. But they wouldn’t. They would say it is their property and they have a right to do whatever they want. Clueless morons. I know people who would do far worse than spray water. Their sound system would be shut down.
The law usually says loud noise is acceptable during the day and usually until around 10pm. That’s why contractors work on homes with saws and hammers and don’t face noise complaints.

Enjoy prison if you assault people and destroy property . Add a hate crime enhancement and double the time. Don’t drop the soap

 
Old 10-03-2023, 09:59 AM
 
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The law usually says loud noise is acceptable during the day and usually until around 10pm. That’s why contractors work on homes with saws and hammers and don’t face noise complaints.
Local ordinances specify 'quiet times' along with regulating decibel output after certain hours. No 'one size fits all'.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 11:12 AM
 
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Enjoy prison if you assault people and destroy property . Add a hate crime enhancement and double the time. Don’t drop the soap
Such exaggeration. When it rains, is that assaulting people? Same effect. What property was destroyed, a damp birthday cake?
Quite the drama queen.
 
Old 10-03-2023, 10:31 PM
 
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Such exaggeration. When it rains, is that assaulting people? Same effect. What property was destroyed, a damp birthday cake?
Quite the drama queen.
In some jurisdictions splashing someone with water is assault.


A young man is facing up to a year in federal prison for splashing a glass of water over Congressman Steve King as he lunched at a restaurant in Iowa in March.

Blake Gibbins, 26, from Lafayette, Colorado, pleaded guilty earlier this week to assaulting a member of Congress, a federal misdemeanor. In addition to the prison sentence, he’s also looking at five years probation plus a maximum fine of $100,000.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59n5...-on-steve-king


Twenty-seven-year-old Blake Gibbins was sentenced to two years of probation and ordered to perform 200 hours of community servic
 
Old 10-04-2023, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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So the loud partygoers got drenched for not turning down the music while people were trying to sleep?

What exactly is the problem here?

If you want to party, go to a nightclub. Some folks have kids who need to sleep for school and parents who need to work.

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In some jurisdictions splashing someone with water is assault.
Disturbing the peace is also illegal.

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Local ordinances specify 'quiet times' along with regulating decibel output after certain hours. No 'one size fits all'.
Bingo, we have a winner. You don't get to throw a party whenever you feel like it.

Nightclubs have permission for loud music during certain hours at night, residents do not.
 
Old 10-04-2023, 03:30 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So the loud partygoers got drenched for not turning down the music while people were trying to sleep?

What exactly is the problem here?

If you want to party, go to a nightclub. Some folks have kids who need to sleep for school and parents who need to work.


Disturbing the peace is also illegal.


Bingo, we have a winner. You don't get to throw a party whenever you feel like it.

Nightclubs have permission for loud music during certain hours at night, residents do not.
If your neighbor is disturbing the peace, and you are still sane, you simply dial the local sheriff or police depot and have an officer dispatched to deal with it. That is how you get value in return for the socialist taxes you pay.

Or, prior to that, you could simply ask your neighbor to turn down the volume. He may not know you’re upset.

Not recommended - Physically attacking your neighbor. He may feel threatened, which may cause him to repel the attack with whatever is on hand, be it a baseball bat, a shovel, or a Smith & Wesson. In some places a physical attack is considered justification for the use of deadly force to retaliate.

Know the law before you act. Funerals are expensive.

https://legaldictionary.net/assault-and-battery/
 
Old 10-04-2023, 05:32 AM
 
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So the loud partygoers got drenched for not turning down the music while people were trying to sleep?

What exactly is the problem here?

If you want to party, go to a nightclub. Some folks have kids who need to sleep for school and parents who need to work.


Disturbing the peace is also illegal.


Bingo, we have a winner. You don't get to throw a party whenever you feel like it.

Nightclubs have permission for loud music during certain hours at night, residents do not.
The police enforce the laws not neighbors. He should have let law enforcement handle it. Now he is going have to hire a lawyer , lose a civil case and pay punitive damages or settle.

There is no legal justification for his actions. He gonna pay
 
Old 10-04-2023, 12:04 PM
 
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In some jurisdictions splashing someone with water is assault.
As I said, 'no one size fits all'.
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A young man is facing up to a year in federal prison for splashing a glass of water over Congressman Steve King as he lunched at a restaurant in Iowa in March.

Blake Gibbins, 26, from Lafayette, Colorado, pleaded guilty earlier this week to assaulting a member of Congress, a federal misdemeanor. In addition to the prison sentence, he’s also looking at five years probation plus a maximum fine of $100,000.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59n5...-on-steve-king


Twenty-seven-year-old Blake Gibbins was sentenced to two years of probation and ordered to perform 200 hours of community servic
Let's see what was involved here.

" The FBI, the Fort Dodge Police Department, and the U.S. Capitol Police investigated the case. Gibbins initially pleaded not guilty to state charges of simple assault and disorderly conduct. But the Northern District of Iowa later hit him with more charges."

Now, if you think this hose spraying will be investigated by the FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police, and pressure brought from a higher political power to create more charges, you are giving the Dr. more credit than he deserves. Members of congress are not treated the same as Joe mainstreet.

Did he do the right thing, there were likely better alternatives. No physical contact, no threat, a good defense lawyer can get the charges dropped.
 
Old 10-05-2023, 06:33 PM
 
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As I said, 'no one size fits all'.

Let's see what was involved here.

" The FBI, the Fort Dodge Police Department, and the U.S. Capitol Police investigated the case. Gibbins initially pleaded not guilty to state charges of simple assault and disorderly conduct. But the Northern District of Iowa later hit him with more charges."

Now, if you think this hose spraying will be investigated by the FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police, and pressure brought from a higher political power to create more charges, you are giving the Dr. more credit than he deserves. Members of congress are not treated the same as Joe mainstreet.

Did he do the right thing, there were likely better alternatives. No physical contact, no threat, a good defense lawyer can get the charges dropped.
Yes the charges could be dropped BUT this is civil case and a guilty verdict doesn’t require a unanimous decision . He also did not ask them to turn down the music before spraying.

If the majority of a NYC jury don’t like him and think he is a racist he could lose his savings and the kids college fund.

“This has already destroyed us,” Rosebrock continued. “They are trying to take away everything I own. My kids could end up on the street, I could end up losing this house.

“They believe we are loaded, but we are not. I have not worked for the last 10 years — I have been at home taking care of the kids,” he said”

https://nypost.com/2023/09/29/white-...rs-speaks-out/

If you act rather way he did and **** off people who can afford good lawyers they can make your life hell
 
Old 10-05-2023, 07:33 PM
 
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If it isn't the consequences of his actions - death threats aren't cool, but he probably shouldn't have felt that hosing down people was the appropriate action, regardless of the reason - be it racist, or just a crappy neighbor.

https://nypost.com/2023/09/29/white-...rs-speaks-out/
Hmmmmm................... "hasn't worked in ten years".................. sounds like the guy has some mental health issues that are unresolved.

It does not specifically say it was "racially motivated". Perhaps the guy with the hose is just your average "problem neighbor" who doesn't get along with anyone, white or black.

As a physician, I am presuming that the "get together" the guy had (and ER doc) was pretty tame, so one wonders why the hell the "hoser" would do such a thing. Just sounds like a jerk.
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