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Old 10-06-2023, 10:04 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The nationwide birth rate fell significantly between 2007 and 2022, dropping from 14.3 births per 1,000 people to 11.1, or nearly 23%, per new CDC data.

Driving the news: It declined particularly dramatically in parts of the West and Southwest, with the greatest drop-offs in Utah (-36.2%), Arizona (-36.1%) and Nevada (-34.0%).
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At -9.3%, North Dakota had the smallest decline.

North Dakota be partyin'; Californians be staying home and playing video games.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:13 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If you look around these days, people are focused on their devices rather than each other. It's not surprising these days we're seeing fewer kids. People are busy dating robots.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Northwest Houston
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Having kids is simply too expensive for a lot of millennials (the bulk of reproductive population), and it will probably get worse with gen z. People have different ambitions than the traditional settling down with 2 kids at 30.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:29 PM
 
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As some who is childless, I just shrug my shoulders and think "whatever".
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Having kids is simply too expensive for a lot of millennials (the bulk of reproductive population), and it will probably get worse with gen z. People have different ambitions than the traditional settling down with 2 kids at 30.
That's a cop-out of the highest degree. It's always been too expensive or the wrong time to have children. And yet we see migrant families with minimum wage jobs having 4 children.

It never ceases to amaze me how prescient this movie was.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0HDHA
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:33 PM
 
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We indocrinated children to have free sex and put the women on birth control or tell them to have an abortion. Relationships have become disposable, and we tell people to go to college and encourage people to hold off on kids and do the rat race.

All has resulted in a generation of people with no children, earning 30% then their parents who didnt even go to college.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:50 PM
 
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College and careers and high COL are probably the biggest reasons for the decline.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:58 PM
 
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So many mixed messages given around this:

- People should stop having kids or getting pregnant unless they're married.

- Don't expect to get help from the government to support your baby, welfare needs to go away once and for all!!

- Hey women, stop having sex, and pregnancy is all your fault!!!111!

- Hey women, birth control is on you and you better use it, so don't come cryin' when you get pregnant, cause that's on you, and abortion shouldn't be legal for anyone.

- Wahhhhh birth rates are way down in the last several years. Wahhhhh need more births in the U.S.!

- No the U.S. does not need more babies of different races...too many already. The U.S. needs more Caucasian babies from married couples.
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Old 10-07-2023, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Having kids is simply too expensive for a lot of millennials (the bulk of reproductive population), and it will probably get worse with gen z. People have different ambitions than the traditional settling down with 2 kids at 30.
This is certainly part of it.

The larger picture though is what is known as the demographic transition - a phenomenon where people, especially women, who have options other than parenthood exercise those options. It happens everywhere that economies move from subsistence-based agriculture to modern technology.

Most of us think that overall this transition is a GOOD thing.

https://populationeducation.org/what...nsition-model/

There are a number of things that a society that wants to encourage parenthood can do to make parenthood easier on folks. Seems like a pretty easy mental leap to me, one that many countries are making. The US, however, seems reluctant to make it. Oh well.
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Old 10-07-2023, 07:03 AM
 
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I never understood the alarm over a decline in birthrates. We have far too many people on this planet already. Seems like those who are worried about it are only thinking in terms of the almighty dollar rather than what is best for this country/planet as a whole.

Seems like it is minorities that are having the most babies and many of them are on the public dole. Is this a good thing?
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