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Old 10-14-2023, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israel...e-195136581697

Snow in Gaza City? Nope, what this video shows is leaflets being dropped by the Israelis, warning Gazans to evacuate to the south. Despite being viciously attacked, Israel still cares enough about Palestinian civilians to give them advance warning to flee. Did Hamas drop any leaflets on the music festival before attacking?

This one thing should be enough evidence to shut up the people who keep trying to make a moral equivalency between the two sides. But it won't be. Israel could cover Gaza in leaflets and some people would still complain about how they're supposedly targeting civilians. But maybe, just maybe, these leaflets might save some Palestinian lives. And maybe, just maybe, some of these civilians might remember how their enemy tried to save their lives while their own leaders used them as human shields.

 
Old 10-14-2023, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Tricity, PL
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Originally Posted by bus man View Post
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israel...e-195136581697

Snow in Gaza City? Nope, what this video shows is leaflets being dropped by the Israelis, warning Gazans to evacuate to the south. Despite being viciously attacked, Israel still cares enough about Palestinian civilians to give them advance warning to flee. Did Hamas drop any leaflets on the music festival before attacking?

This one thing should be enough evidence to shut up the people who keep trying to make a moral equivalency between the two sides. But it won't be. Israel could cover Gaza in leaflets and some people would still complain about how they're supposedly targeting civilians. But maybe, just maybe, these leaflets might save some Palestinian lives. And maybe, just maybe, some of these civilians might remember how their enemy tried to save their lives while their own leaders used them as human shields.
Sure. Did you read the news???

An airstrike launched by Israeli forces on evacuees resulted in the death of at least 70 civilians, most of whom were women and children, and injured 200 more.
Now Gaza civilians are afraid to leave home after bombing of ‘safe routes’

Analysis of aerial photos and social media posts confirms attack on road identified as safe by Israeli army.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Interior and National Security, Palestinian medical services and civil defense crews were targeted by an Israeli strike at the site of a rescue operation in northern Gaza on Saturday.

I remember Russians did the same in Ukraine...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...of-safe-routes

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Old 10-14-2023, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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But Israel has cut off water, gas and electricity to Gaza. Most Gazans have to travel by bus or foot. What about elderly, handicapped and young kids who cannot walk on their own? If you are like this and poor on top of this, you find and read this leaflet and then what? Look at the tv, there are ppl in Gaza who have packed up and walking and trying. But what percentage do these ppl we see on tv make up of the total population?
 
Old 10-14-2023, 09:04 PM
 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/video/israel...e-195136581697

Snow in Gaza City? Nope, what this video shows is leaflets being dropped by the Israelis, warning Gazans to evacuate to the south. Despite being viciously attacked, Israel still cares enough about Palestinian civilians to give them advance warning to flee. Did Hamas drop any leaflets on the music festival before attacking?

This one thing should be enough evidence to shut up the people who keep trying to make a moral equivalency between the two sides. But it won't be. Israel could cover Gaza in leaflets and some people would still complain about how they're supposedly targeting civilians. But maybe, just maybe, these leaflets might save some Palestinian lives. And maybe, just maybe, some of these civilians might remember how their enemy tried to save their lives while their own leaders used them as human shields.
Palestinians don't see Israel as the enemy. Of course some do. But the majority just want to live in peace. The problem is that they have no where to go. Its heartbreaking
 
Old 10-14-2023, 09:19 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Traffic is slow for residents trying to flee to the south. Hamas has set up roadblocks to prevent them from leaving.
 
Old 10-15-2023, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Palestinians don't see Israel as the enemy. Of course some do. But the majority just want to live in peace. The problem is that they have no where to go. Its heartbreaking
Palestinians don’t see Israel as the enemy? I’d like to know how you came to that conclusion. Do you have any empirical data to back that up? Wishful thinking doesn’t count.
 
Old 10-15-2023, 08:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Traffic is slow for residents trying to flee to the south. Hamas has set up roadblocks to prevent them from leaving.
They can't have their shields leaving.
 
Old 10-15-2023, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Occupant of USA.
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They can't have their shields leaving.
True. They need the shields when the door to door warfare starts.

So sad people are going to be used that way.
 
Old 10-15-2023, 09:24 PM
 
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Palestinians don't see Israel as the enemy. Of course some do. But the majority just want to live in peace. The problem is that they have no where to go. Its heartbreaking
Define "some".

Is it 10%, 20%, 30%, 50%, 90%... please provide some link or data as to where you got your number from.

And before we talk about heartbreaking, let's remember the attacks that Hamas did without giving any warning.
 
Old 10-15-2023, 09:42 PM
 
Location: az
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There's this...

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Overall, 57% of Gazans express at least a somewhat positive opinion of Hamas—along with similar percentages of Palestinians in the West Bank (52%) and East Jerusalem (64%)—though Gazans who express this opinion of Hamas are fewer than the number of Gazans who have a positive view of Fatah (64%).
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/...-and-hezbollah
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