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Old 12-13-2023, 11:59 AM
 
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My guess is that this move by the others does not follow the bible verse “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.” It certainly never applied to the Moms for Liberty founder.

 
Old 12-13-2023, 12:21 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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You could have easily have found this. Some real role models in that school district, M4L, Proud Boys.

This is what you get when you have a governor involved in school board elections.

https://www.wfla.com/news/sarasota-c...hobic-remarks/
Three items I see in your post, and in the article.
One is that you cut pieces as you saw fit, and didn't include ellipses to indicate such. That means you misconstrued what was in the article.

Second is that the source is a Left Wing rag.

Third is the article, even being a Leftist Rag, did NOT support your assertion.
It more readily supports "berdee," in his response to your post.

(I wonder if the third item is the reason for the first... pretty disingenuous.)
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Three items I see in your post, and in the article.
One is that you cut pieces as you saw fit, and didn't include ellipses to indicate such. That means you misconstrued what was in the article.

Second is that the source is a Left Wing rag.

Third is the article, even being a Leftist Rag, did NOT support your assertion.
It more readily supports "berdee," in his response to your post.

(I wonder if the third item is the reason for the first... pretty disingenuous.)
You asked for a news source and you have it, now you don’t like the source. CD limits the length of articles posted from any source. Plenty of other news sources carried the same information, how about commenting on the details in the article rather than claiming “it’s a leftist source”.

Defend your point, what did the article get wrong?
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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... and at worst a heinous invasion of someone else’s privacy and quite possibly a crime in itself.

While the recording may save his arse, the fact that it exists certainly sheds some insight into just how alternative his “lifestyle” actually is, and if it was non consensual calls his character very much into question, and I don’t know how he carries on as very conservative on social issues with a straight face.
That's are good points.
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The investigation is still ongoing and no charges have been laid. (No pun intended).
No, Of course not.
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:28 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Nothing says family values like making video porn of an extra marital sexual encounter.

What section of the traditional family manual does adultery and amateur porn fall under?

...
One of my teachers told us that "every man has feet of clay."
Another said "don't try to promote perfection. Promote good."

The couple campaigns against indoctrination, sexualization, and gooming of children. The couples personal lifestyles have nothing to do with those things, no matter how much the Leftist Smear Machine pretends that it does.


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While the recording may save his arse, the fact that it exists certainly sheds some insight into just how alternative his “lifestyle” actually is, and if it was non consensual calls his character very much into question, and I don’t know how he carries on as very conservative on social issues with a straight face.

No one knows who their partner is, she didn’t go to the press, these two were long time personal friends, so I’m at a bit of a loss as to what she had to gain here, by making their affairs known to the police.

The investigation is still ongoing and no charges have been laid. (No pun intended).
The light shed on his sexual lifestyle may scuttle his political career, but it has nothing to do with the couple's campaign against sexualizing and grooming children, other than giving the Leftist Smear Machine more pretext to smear them with.

As for the woman who "went to the police" knowing it would go public and smear her "friends," I think the truth will come out, eventually.
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:32 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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You asked for a news source and you have it, now you don’t like the source. CD limits the length of articles posted from any source. Plenty of other news sources carried the same information, how about commenting on the details in the article rather than claiming “it’s a leftist source”.

Defend your point, what did the article get wrong?
The "News Source," if it was a news source, was full of inappropriate adjectives, making it a Left Wing Rag.

You didn't need to past more of the article, you needed to post honestly, and not try to make the article say something it did not.

However, I didn't say they got it wrong, I said, in spite of it being a Left Wing Rag, it does NOT support your assertion. It supports "berdee," in his response to your assertion.

Thank you, for proving yourself wrong.
Again.
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Old 12-13-2023, 01:39 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Freedom of speech. Parents can always monitor their “own “ children from anything they don’t want them to see- read or hear. That’s their job.
Freedom of speech for everyone but Mrs. Z, eh? Does she not also have that right?
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:41 PM
 
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Freedom of speech for everyone but Mrs. Z, eh? Does she not also have that right?
Not for the protection of her position if she sits on a school board actually, they have their ethical standard to meet, and its Florida so it is very strict.

Free from persecution but that does not protect your position on a Public board.
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:46 PM
 
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One of my teachers told us that "every man has feet of clay."
Another said "don't try to promote perfection. Promote good."

The couple campaigns against indoctrination, sexualization, and gooming of children. The couples personal lifestyles have nothing to do with those things, no matter how much the Leftist Smear Machine pretends that it does.



The light shed on his sexual lifestyle may scuttle his political career, but it has nothing to do with the couple's campaign against sexualizing and grooming children, other than giving the Leftist Smear Machine more pretext to smear them with.

As for the woman who "went to the police" knowing it would go public and smear her "friends," I think the truth will come out, eventually.
He filmed himself having sex with a woman who is not his wife, possibly non consensually (the sex and/or the filming).

That goes way beyond the couple’s “personal lifestyle” and by definition took their sex life out of the privacy of their own bedroom. They took the risk of exposing their sex life, no one else.

Their campaigns on whatever they might be don’t erase that fact. He is chairman of the Florida GOP, whose platform strongly espouses Traditional Family Values. If you espouse that for everyone else, then surely it’s something you should abide by yourself. They obviously make little effort to do so.

You have no idea the political affiliation of their sex partner.
 
Old 12-13-2023, 01:54 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I am, and always have been live and let live. I don’t care if has 20, as long as leave others alone. Her sexual preference is not disgusting- her hypocrisy is and those who defend it.
Her hypocrisy? What is her hypocrisy?

She's speaking out against sexualizing children and groomers. Why is her doing that and for others to agree with her on that, disgusting to you? We don't like children being sexualized but maybe you do?

What she'd done, with the 3-way, was between consenting adults and not children. If it had been with children instead then she would be a hypocrite, among other things.

She was not speaking out against all LGBTQ, rather she was speaking out about certain individuals. That does not make her a hypocrite either. As I'd mentioned before, LGBTQ is not monolithic, why do you think they are? That to say something against one is to say something against all?

It sounds like you are labeling her that for no reason whatsoever but for your own personal reasons.
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